(April 18, 2019 at 1:04 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(April 18, 2019 at 10:32 am)Brian37 Wrote: So basically, if I am reading this correctly, this is yet another manufactured object well after the alleged claimed event, and hardly a first hand account.
There isn't enough in the article to support the claim that the crown was manufactured 'well after the alleged claimed event', and the section quoted only details how it got to Notre Dame. If the Passion narrative in the Synoptics is accurate (meaning Jesus was crowned with a ring of thorns), then the relic could conceivably be genuine.
But I wouldn't place a bet on it.
Boru
1238 seems way after year "0" much less "34" . I am not good at math, but that does seem to be way after the fact.
And please do not assume or try to argue those in antiquity had modern communication and the same accurate record keeping we have today.
It makes much more sense to me, that humans started a religion, based on legends and myths, and the buyers after the fact worked to market and perpetuate that legend.
We can prove even today that King Tut was a real king, but that never made Ra, Osiris, Horus or Isis real gods. That crown was manufactured just like the alleged Shroud.
FYI the way the Romans tortured criminals and war enemies was not a lower case "t", like the cross implies. It was a capital "T".
And I really do not care regardless. Humans are not born without a second set of DNA as implied by the "virgin birth", nor do humans get speared in the side, have all the blood drained out of their bodies, suffer complete organ/cellular death, only to dance the jig 3 days later. No such thing as magic babies with super powers or zombie gods.
And funny how when you look at the depictions of the "Jesus" character in European history, he seems Italian in Italy, German in Germany, Spanish in Spain and English in England.