RE: Good vs Evil
May 6, 2019 at 3:10 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2019 at 3:21 pm by Drich.)
(May 6, 2019 at 11:31 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:Quote:"Good" is anything in the expressed will of God/His law being his will expressed.
"Evil" is willfully being outside or in rebellion against the will of God.
Theft is against God's law. Is stealing medicine to save a dying child an evil act?
Boru
Sin is anything not in the expressed will of God/Anything not permissable by the written/express law of God.
Evil is a desire or an action that allows one to dwell in thought or act of sin or indulge in sin. (evil in this day gives one permission to sin.)
Not all sin is evil but all evil is sin. Sin can be forgiven evil will not.
So to steal medicine is a sin, it can be considered evil if you steal it for the purpose of sinning. however if you stole it because you are in need with no means to pay it is a simple sin.
Now keep in mind sin is only sin without christ. sin is only a 'mark against you' if you are trying to live by the law. which again is pointless if you have only ever sinned even once. live by the law means to live a perfect sin less life/ moral life. God does not judge morality despite what some religions say.
Sin's only stated purpose/the reason for the law remaining is to identify sin. once you see that you sin, nothing else can be done beside seeking atonement. so the purpose of sin is to push you towards seeking atonement as a means to righteousness rather than trying to earn righteousness by being 'moral.'
When you are in the grace of God you are no longer judged by sin. it is no longer used to "keep track" of the kind of person you are.
The new measure becomes love. Love for God before all things and love for your neighbor as yourself... These two laws replace rather full fills the whole law. Meaning if you keep these two laws as a believer then you will be counted as one of the redeemed. As this love that has you keep these two laws makes you a canidate for the love of God which includes redemption. all other laws for the believer are moot.
However, before you know christ you are judged not onl by the 10 commandments but by every stroke of the pen, not one part of the law changes. However after "it was finished" (jesus' last words on the cross) you become judge whether or not you accepted the atonement offer and are in a state of grace. Not by your actions. but by your love for God and fellow man/The greatest commands.
Meaning if you stole medicine, the question would be did you do it because you love stealing, did you do it to make money? or did you do it because your love for another would see you in trouble before harm came to the other person?
The question of why is what is judged, for me as a believer...
For you as a non believer the question is did he steal, answer yes (for you the law remains and not one aspect of it changes) then he is in sin and as such with no grace or atonement offered is punished by a second death/hell
So yes and no to answer your question. for me it is a sin but sin has no hold on me as one in christ but to a non believer yes it is a sin and that sin will see you to hell despite your intentions.
(May 6, 2019 at 2:48 pm)Losty Wrote: I’m so glad you decided to grace my thread with your desires to murder children. I don’t actually believe in evil but if I did, (and if I believed held the things you say were actually real and not just trolling) you’d be on the list.
So You blindly believe all children are innocent?
tell me if you where in chris kyle's spot and those troops on the ground where you friends and family you would not shoot this child? He did and his mother why? because they where evil and trying to kill his people.
You idealism of all children being innocent has never been more than a hallmark christmas card sentiment. kids are nothing more carrier of potentially toxic idealism and fanaticism. which we will learn as a nation one days as our troops already well know. Which was the purpose of that psalm. again not only did the jews want the people who where enslaving them dead they want their children dead because they knew the children where also indoctrinated to hate, that this hate permeated generations and does not just pop in once someone hits 18.
yes i wa trolling about universal and the evil children there. but i thought it was so obvious it would not be disputed. but at the same time I was making a point that evil children are indeed apart of this world and they like their fathers do need to die if we are to ever see an end to fanatical terrorism.