RE: The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence
July 14, 2019 at 7:57 am
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2019 at 9:40 am by brewer.)
(July 13, 2019 at 10:43 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:(July 13, 2019 at 10:20 pm)wyzas Wrote:
Excellent point, Lil Rik.
But I am not making some "proclamation through fiat" when I say: "Things that exist, exist because they must exist." Ask yourself: why are things the way they are? Why does the planet earth take 24 hours to complete a rotation? Why is the sun the temperature that it is? Why is the planet Venus so hot? Why does the moon reflect light from the sun?
The answer?
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Is there an answer?
Yes.
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Prior causes. The conditions of reality before this present moment dictate what must be the case now. The reality that exists before our very eyes is necessary.
When a star produces an accretion disk, the accretion disk forms because it is necessary for the molecules being scattered from the newly-formed star to go somewhere. Likewise, the newly-formed star's formation was necessitated by what its composite hydrogen molecules must do when they enter such a state.
Give me an example of something that exists because of something other than prior causes, Brew.
It sounded like you were going down the First Cause road. The word "must" kinda threw me, leave it out and I would have a different reaction. It's the same reaction I sometimes get when people use "always".
Something without a PC............... abstract ideas. Or maybe words (noise?) of glossolalia. A random number.
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