The Best Logique Evidence of God Existence

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"no hidden variables" and mechanism can be/may be two different things.  I need to see more about what space/time is.  For now, our models are only based on the outcomes that we see. 

 see "how small is it 05" for what I mean as a mechanism.

A simple example would be watching a city full of cars from some altitude where you can't see people.  maybe even speed the time scale up so they are moving at a speed where we can't see people.  A math model could describe how the cars are behaving very accurately. 

The missing mechanism is people living.   The "no hidden variable" would be 'sometimes they suddenly crash into each other for no explicable reason".   We can predict the number of crashes over time but we can't predict any one crash specifically.

Keep in mind, I only say "I think there is a mechanism.".  I am not certain. 

Can you offer one piece of evidence that there is none?  Just one please?

Well, it is still far from clear what you mean by a 'mechanism'. Without understanding that, I cannot give evidence that there is none.

You say that 'hidden variables' and 'mechanisms' may be different things, yet you fail to explain how. Then you go off on spacetime, which seems beside the point to me.

How is the demonstration that there cannot be a hidden variable theory that explains the observations NOT a demonstration that there is no mechanism underlying QM?

Your city analogy *does* have hidden variables: the people and cars operating locally and causally. That is explicitly refuted by the violations of Bell's inequalities.

The car analogy only "does have" because we know they are there.  I said imagine if you didn't know it was people.  How would it look?  

Ok, so you do not understand why I need to know more about space/time before I change my mind.  How is it you do not understand why that is important?  As to being unclear on the mechanism after I gave you an example and a basic look at some QED stuff is confusing to me.

Oh well ... no matter.

we are at an impasse now that we will not overcome in a forum setting.  And actually, now that I think about it, its one we can't over come.   We don't know enough.  You say its due to bell inequality that you feel there is no mechanism.  I feel bells inequality works exactly how space/time allows it to work.  which neither one of us knows.

Also ... Neither one of us is dead set on our claims.  SO I say I think they are going to find out whats going on when they find more about space/time.  You say you don't this so.

ok, that's that. I don't really care either way.  You may be correct in end.  It would be really cool if you were too, it would mean we learned something very cool.