(September 16, 2019 at 4:35 pm)polymath257 Wrote:(September 16, 2019 at 1:07 pm)Lek Wrote: You guys are hardcore atheists and demand a specific kind of evidence which I can't give you. If God, who is a spiritual being, is communicating himself to us, there is probably not going to be any physical evidence to show to anybody. At the same time one will know if it's God. Your argument that billions of sane, educated people are experiencing illusions, or mistaken about what they experience doesn't hold much weight. I think that your belief that anything might exist beyond what we can perceive by natural means is mistaken.
The truth is that you will never accept God because he's not going to give you the evidence that you want. I'll concede that I have nothing that will convince you that there is a God and, fortunately, God doesn't ask me to do that.
You are just a hardcore anti-gnomist and demand a specific kind of evidence which I can't give you. If invisible gnomes, which are invisible, are communicating with us, there is probably not going to be any physical evidence to show to anybody. At the same time, we will know that it is invisible gnomes.
The truth is that you will never accept invisible gnomes because they're not going to give you the evidence you want. I'll concede tht I have nothing that will convince you that there are invisible gnomes and, fortunately, invisible gnomes don't ask me to do that.
Are you saying that LEK is guilty of special pleading for his god?!
NO!!! Tell me it ain't so...
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
