RE: Arguments against Soul
February 4, 2020 at 7:10 am
(This post was last modified: February 4, 2020 at 7:11 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 3, 2020 at 1:35 pm)tackattack Wrote: I rarely know how to classify myself in the wide range of potential beliefs, so I greatly appreciate the moral realist label, for whatever that's worth. You may be arguing for whether a soul is real or not, but I clearly laid out in the beginning I could not meet the materialist definitions of "real" and was actually speaking about which theory were a better solution. Many people here try and press the sufficient reason that everything can be explained. Indeed consciousness, souls, aliens, and God all might one day be explained. I consider a soul an epistemical brute fact I suppose, so probably DOA for you. I guess an alternate stance some have is that we are a soul, rather than we have a soul. I am of the belief that we are a soul. That the physiological continuum that defined you at 3 and now at 30 is based on multiple inputs. Some are metaphysical, physical... I just believe that another input is spiritual. I believe that soul exists and informs the spirit (as it informs our soul), which returns to God after mortal life ends. The Spirit (Holy Spirit) in us, is not the same as the soul. A thought is not the same as a brain state. An identity is not the sum of only all of the physical inputs to a brain. We seems to have the ability to choose our course and our attention so we are not only deterministic. I'm not attempting to wax poetically, Gae. I'm just attempting to prove a conversation is possible and that a conclusion not likely. I do appreciate out conversations though.I thought we would be having some conversation about why you decided that "soul" was the best explanation for things like mind and morality. We're not. You're just reasserting the articles of your faith in "soul". You said it was the best explanation, you have continued to fail to demonstrate that it is at least -an- explanation.
Quote:To answer your question. I feel I have a soul when I experience cognitive dissonance and something informs the me (now) that something needs balancing. I feel I have a soul when a Spiritual or societal moral input conflicts with my personal morality (now). I feel I have a soul when something informs my intuition (now) that something is happening or needs to happen that I would have no insight over. etc...Are you feeling that with your physical senses, or your supernatural ones?
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