This is what religious conservatives does.

[Vince]

1.  Well, that's valid - the person that said it said it was hyperbole.  It couldn't be that he said it without thinking and is too ashamed to admit  that he made a stupid, hypocritical remark.

Could be, but how can you possibly know?  You have no evidence to support this claim but there is evidence that he does not want to eliminate higher education.  Why believe something contrary to the available evidence?

2.  If Senator Slugnutty opts to retract his statement and say that higher education is not the breeding ground of liberal thinking, I'll be happy to listen.

Weren't we talking about his statement that he wants to eliminate higher education?  I bet he does think that higher ed is a breeding ground for liberal thinking.  The hyperbole he was talking about was his statement of eliminating higher ed.

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He was using hyperbole.  He has voted for public money for higher education and sponsored bills for prisoners to have access to college programs as well as statewide master plan for public universities in Tennessee.  He was reacting to a woman that was yelling at him.  He is not calling for the abolishment of higher education.  This is one reason we are so divided.  That whatever we say will be taken out of context and used against us.  Find real things you don't like about him to push back on.

I think there is a small germ of truth in what you're saying. The more I look at it, the more convinced I become that Republicans don't even have much of an ideology anymore beyond gainsaying that anything that anyone to the left of them says is bad is good and vice versa.





I can't be sure that they actually believe that higher education should be abolished, but at this point, I think the question of what they actually believe in their heart of hearts isn't even relevant anymore. If what they actually believed mattered to them, they'd either have bucked the trend of Religious Rightism or they'd have fought against Trump at some point. What matters for them now is winning. And if winning means America ends up like this (with the sole exception being that they're actually speaking English), then so be it:

I gave up on national politics last election.  I only voted in local elections.  The thing is all this you have said about the alt right can be said about the extreme left as well.  They wouldn't hang intellectuals, they would hang the religious and useless though.

No politician on the national stage can push the answers we need to rectify our ship, because if they did they would not get elected. How is dealing with our debt an electable position?  As soon as you mention cutting a program people on both sides start screaming that it will kill people and that the opposition wants to kill children etc.  It is a ridiculous situation.  The US is screwed, just not sure how long before we fall off the cliff.