(September 24, 2019 at 7:24 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(September 24, 2019 at 6:48 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Please review the thread.
I have never said that there is such a thing as "atheist ideology."
Of course you didn't. You simply implied one, in keeping with your habit of being a "no-claimer". I could cite your weasel words, but you would spout more to evade responsibility.
Anyway, you claimed in this thread that atheists held ideologies and that they were atheist ideologies that they held.
Start with...
(September 22, 2019 at 8:50 pm)Belaqua Wrote: My experience is that it is very much NOT true, of either atheists or religious people.Thus atheists, in your view have an ideological position.
Commitment to an ideological position nearly always takes precedence.
You then expanded to many ideologies when challenged...
(September 23, 2019 at 6:40 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Atheists, like theists, may subscribe to a wide variety of ideologies.Which was utterly irrelevant.
Any human being who says "I think the world should be this instead of that way" has an ideology, including atheists.
And in your very next post, you appealled to a hymn. A fucking hymn. Composed by an indoctrinated child, no less.
(September 23, 2019 at 9:45 pm)Belaqua Wrote: There's a hymn my niece put up on her Facebook page, called "Christ has no body now but yours." Many modern Christians think that Christ "exists" when we do Christlike things, and in no other way. William Blake says something similar.And proceeded to hurl mockery at Anom while failing to understand his post.
Ooh, deep. Completely irrelevant, but deep.
It is interesting that you resorted to religious child abuse at this point. Really? A"hymn"? Composed by an indoctrinated child? This should impress who exactly?
And you then follow up with this blatant christian propaganda...
(September 23, 2019 at 11:59 pm)Belaqua Wrote: Blake was a Christian. He was deeply knowledgable about the traditional theology which doesn't hold that God is a mean sky-daddy who lives on a cloud. Studying his work gives us access to other religious thinkers, like Buber, Weil, etc., who disagree with the dumb sola scriptura literalists.
I am an atheist. What gullible theists like Blake, Buber or Weil might claim is kind of irrelevant, don't you think?
But your reliance on such dubious sources paints you into the very corner that you have been trying to avoid in pursuit of your cloak of being impartial.
Whatever. You and I both know that you are a christian attempting to blag your way into an atheist community.
So long as we both know this, then all is well. You know I am being honest and I know that you are not.
And so does everyone else who can read.
ETA: Of course, you could clear all of this up with a plain statement of what exactly your position really is. So far, you refuse to do so. I suppose that is on you.
This is a silly. I have my frustrations with some of the things Belaqua says, but consider rereading what he's saying because it's clear to me he's not saying what you accuse him of saying. Similar shit is happening in the soul thread as well. We all make reading errors but come on guys, when something has been answered or clarified, read them properly when you can and don't try to find faults just for the sake of it, and/or pretend he wasn't clear.