(November 11, 2019 at 1:51 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote:(November 11, 2019 at 1:27 pm)Grandizer Wrote: It's all situational and a matter of tact. It's about knowing what and when to say things (if at all). Will you die if you don't sing the N-word out loud in front of black people?
So, what is the situational difference between using the word while doing a public reading of a work where the N-word is used as a weapon and singing along to a song that uses it more casually and not as a weapon? It's the blatant double standard at play that vexes a lot of us, and the fact that a group that's historically been oppressed benefiting for once doesn't quite ease our minds.
If you are talking quoting a history book or documentary then nobody should have a problem if it is merely reporting history saying "this happened and people used this word". But a song isn't a history report, it is entertainment, so again, time place and context matter and knowing your audience matters. You cant simply say "whenever, wherever."
As an atheist, I can handle other atheists joking with me claiming I love Stalin and barbecue kittens. But when a fundy falsely accuses me, because I am an an atheist, I must love dictators, and they hate me, that is done out of fear and bigotry.
But even with liberal theists who don't hate me, but still don't completely understand, even they can say things that are ignorant without realizing it.
It is even the same with "Rednecks". HillbillyAtheist a member here, my best friend from Oklahoma, and a liberal, he can handle me joking with him and calling him a "redneck". But he hates it when he sees coastals basically say, "fuck the middle of the country, fuck those trailer trash rednecks."
So I get it when you hear a country artist use the word "redneck" in a song, and also get it when John(Hillbilly Atheist) gets angry at others whom use it in a derogatory context.
There are tons of pejoratives for all sorts of minorities, Mexicans, Jews, Chinese, Polish, Italians. So if you are going to use a word not being part of that group, and you are not a bigot, you should know the history behind that word, and also know your audience and not use it indiscriminately.