[Serious] Singing the N-word

[Brian37]

Sorry, but I will sing all the words to any song I like. I would never use it as a slur, but I draw the line at being told I can't repeat what other people have said as quoted or else I'm racist. You can fuck right off with that.

I agree. But there is what is in your head, and how others react to what you do. 

If we are to be empathetic to others it isn't a matter of being PC, but simply understanding time place and context.

I love South Park, and that show rips on everyone, even had an episode where they had Richard Dawkins fucking Mrs Garrison. I laughed my ass off.

But even with liberal theists, I have had close theist friends who have still said ignorant things about atheists not understanding the error in their logic. 

I agree, the people that know you know you are not using the "n" as a slur, but there unfortunately are those who do use it as a slur. 

Cris is still right, "Not really".  I take that as "it depends" and "know your audience."

I don't take offense to South Park poking fun of atheists because I get the context that the entire show pokes fun of everyone of every label to say, "Don't take life so seriously, you'll never get out of it alive." 

It isn't a "never say this or that" demand, but time place and context.

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If you are talking quoting a history book or documentary then nobody should have a problem if it is merely reporting history saying "this happened and people used this word". But a song isn't a history report, it is entertainment, so again, time place and context matter and knowing your audience matters. You cant simply say "whenever, wherever."

As an atheist, I can handle other atheists joking with me claiming I love Stalin and barbecue kittens. But when a fundy falsely accuses me, because I am an an atheist, I must love dictators, and they hate me, that is done out of fear and bigotry.

But even with liberal theists who don't hate me, but still don't completely understand, even they can say things that are ignorant without realizing it. 

It is even the same with "Rednecks". HillbillyAtheist a member here, my best friend from  Oklahoma, and a liberal, he can handle me joking with him and calling him a "redneck". But he hates it when he sees coastals basically say, "fuck the middle of the country, fuck those trailer trash rednecks."

So I get it when you hear a country artist use the word "redneck" in a song, and also get it when John(Hillbilly Atheist) gets angry at others whom use it in a derogatory context.

There are tons of pejoratives for all sorts of minorities, Mexicans, Jews, Chinese, Polish, Italians. So if you are going to use a word not being part of that group, and you are not a bigot, you should know the history behind that word, and also know your audience and not use it indiscriminately.

But it isn't about the word being used in a derogatory context.  If someone is singing along with a song that contains the word 'redneck', s/he's using it in exactly the same context as the artist.

Boru

I get that, and that is what Chris was saying, but he is still right in saying "not really". 

If a bigoted KKK asshole loved that same song and sang it, he wouldn't be singing it in loving inclusive manor. Point is, it still depends and know your audience.