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God as a non-creator
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RE: God as a non-creator
(January 17, 2020 at 2:48 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: You have all seen (and will see more of them in future) topics desperately trying to distort science of evolution, genetics, archaeology, and whatnot, to fit God in somwhere.

So perhaps this topic is trying to meet theists half way there - so to speak.

Let me remind theists first that evolution does not equal atheism. It may debunk creator gods like Yahweh and Allah, and Jesus because his godliness depends on Adam's existence (but then it's not just evolution that is problematic, but also archaeology that shows there's no garden of Eden; genetics that shows there were never just two humans in the past, Google earth because we can't see the firewall around the forbidden tree, etc.) But there were other gods that were not considered creators like Alexander the Great, Julius Caesar, Sai Baba...

So if someone is honest in their search for God (as theists claim to be) then why not use science to find God instead of distorting, dismissing and ignoring science that debunks God that you want to believe in? After all there is no definition of God so he doesn't have to be a creator.

If science shows you some God is implausible then why not dump that God and try to find some other that could be scientifically plausible - or, put in other words, find some other god that science cannot debunk?

Better yet, the theists needs to consider that claims of supernatural beings are merely a reflection of our own species attributes, desires, narcissism? 

How about the theist consider their god belief is merely like a cat, dog or deer confusing a reflection in a mirror or glass as something separate than it's own reflection?
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God as a non-creator - by Fake Messiah - January 17, 2020 at 2:48 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by Brian37 - January 17, 2020 at 2:58 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by no one - January 17, 2020 at 3:40 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by WinterHold - January 18, 2020 at 12:58 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2020 at 1:14 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by WinterHold - January 18, 2020 at 1:58 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by Mr Greene - January 18, 2020 at 5:49 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by Belacqua - January 18, 2020 at 7:20 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by Fake Messiah - January 21, 2020 at 8:36 am
RE: God as a non-creator - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 18, 2020 at 2:04 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by WinterHold - January 18, 2020 at 2:48 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - January 18, 2020 at 3:38 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by Fireball - January 18, 2020 at 6:24 pm
RE: God as a non-creator - by The Grand Nudger - January 18, 2020 at 4:56 pm

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