(January 18, 2020 at 1:14 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Did any of those discoveries come from praying to the moongod?
Messiah has a point that can't be wished away by calling things disgusting, imagining what other people believe....that you don't, or whining that somebody is killing muslims somewhere.
It's a sad fact of contemporary belief that the people with the most vested interest in taking their god seriously will not or cannot do so. You've volunteered numerous examples of this on the board, and do so above as well. Did anyone ask you to imagine a void universe, or anything empty? No. You were asked whether or not you were capable of conceiving of a god that does not contradict facts. That does not need apology. A god that you would not sacrifice on the altar of a magic book. It didn't create us, because we weren't created, but it's still a god.
Can you do that....?
Viewing other faiths as "a no-no" is a fact of life each and every human must take; it's called "personal opinion" and you're a hypocrite if you claim you don't view my faith -just like I view yours- a no-no.
You have your faith, I have mine, end of story. What comes next is me not killing you over it, and for you to do the exact same.
It's not a surprise; life is full of different opinions, thus we should collaborate to build something good, not escalate things leading each other to war over it.
Can you do that, too ?
And yes; non-believers claim that no God wanted to cover humanity with his mercy.
Non-believers ignore the question about "what was before" the big bang; theists say otherwise.
I believe in one of the claims about "the otherwise".
What's the big deal ?
