RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
February 19, 2020 at 12:57 pm
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2020 at 1:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(February 19, 2020 at 12:49 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:No, I already told you, I have moral objections to his character and his ethics. This makes him unsuitable as a cult leader, and makes his cult unsuitable, to me.(February 19, 2020 at 12:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Why would I have to deal with moral relativism? I'm not a moral relativist. I get that -you- don't count them as objections..but that hardly matters as to whether or not they are objections which prevent -me- from joining your club.
In other words, you just don't like the prophet. Sounds like more of a grudge to me than a reasonable objection.
Quote:(February 19, 2020 at 12:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's ludicrous to suggest that only our closest buddies have a right to a moral conclusion on our character and actions. I don't care that his pals and his culture at large put up with him taking a child bride. That, again, is not my jam..and no amount of it being their jam will make it my jam, nor will any amount of them not having an issue with it mean that I can't.
Whether it's your jam or not should be irrelevant. Nobody gets to choose where truth lies or whether people who "have" it are pleasant to us. A good analogy would be to listen carefully to the teacher regardless of him being the ugliest nerd with eyeglasses.
It's relevant to whether or not I can be a muslim, Kloro. It's the only thing that's relevant to whether or not I could or would join your club.
Remember, that's what you asked me about, and that's what I'm explaining to you. There are tons of other clubs I also don't belong to, if that makes you feel better.
I don't know wtf you're babbling on about with the pleasantness of people. I've never had an unpleasant experience with a muslim, and that just doesn't factor into why I'm not a muslim. I've heard what your teacher has to say..and that's -why- I'm not a muslim. That's all there is to it. I like to tell your christian brethren that I'm just not a winnable soul. The things that you consider to be true, the truth that you would have me affirm, repulse me as a person of good character and strong conscience.
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