RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 6, 2020 at 12:22 pm
(This post was last modified: March 6, 2020 at 12:25 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That question above helps to clarify alot, btw. If I were a person who rejected moral facts and doubted mans ability to ascertain them, I would be an error theorist in every conceivable way. Subjectivism, relativism, nihilism, non cognitivism..all error theories, all directly opposed to moral realism, all of which you've employed as objections.
When you asked, in effect, how atheists could "do morality"... you would have been asking from a point of actual ignorance. As in you have no way of doing it, and acknowledge that. This would explain your preference for order taking over moral agency entirely.
You may have been unclear on the terms, or on what type of moral proposition you were offering...but if these are things that you believe, things that accurately describe your appraisal of the moral field, then you should probably be comfortable with them. If you're a committed error theorist who counts on god to give you the answers to the test, then this is simply what you believe..even if the term for that is something you've been taught to reject.
You're a subjectivist, I'm a realist. You "do morality" by taking orders from a privileged authority, I "do morality" by considering facts through rational inference. This is the whole answer to your underlying question. There isn't anything else to it. That's how I do it. That's how any atheist can do it. That's how any theist can do it.
When you asked, in effect, how atheists could "do morality"... you would have been asking from a point of actual ignorance. As in you have no way of doing it, and acknowledge that. This would explain your preference for order taking over moral agency entirely.
You may have been unclear on the terms, or on what type of moral proposition you were offering...but if these are things that you believe, things that accurately describe your appraisal of the moral field, then you should probably be comfortable with them. If you're a committed error theorist who counts on god to give you the answers to the test, then this is simply what you believe..even if the term for that is something you've been taught to reject.
You're a subjectivist, I'm a realist. You "do morality" by taking orders from a privileged authority, I "do morality" by considering facts through rational inference. This is the whole answer to your underlying question. There isn't anything else to it. That's how I do it. That's how any atheist can do it. That's how any theist can do it.
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