RE: Official live update of spread of COVID19
September 7, 2021 at 4:34 am
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2021 at 4:53 am by Ronaldo.)
(September 6, 2021 at 5:24 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(September 6, 2021 at 5:09 am)Ronaldo Wrote: Israel...
Most vaccinated country in the world. Was reporting over 90% vaxed
The claim was that it would stop covid... A testable claim...
Now lets examine the data...
Now its peaking higher than ever before... People have the sniffles in mid-summer, unheard of...
Their talking about the 4th shot over there in Israel because the first 3 didn't work
United Kingdom and USA... How many are vaxed? 70%?
Well the claim was that 70% was all that was needed, without booster shots...
And they claimed if they vaxed the elderly and it would fix the problem... Testable claims
Now lets check the data...
Uk is worse with the mid summer sniffles, now taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
USA is worse with the mid summer sniffles currently taking a 3rd shot cos the first 2 didn't work
Not only has the vaccine been not effective... Its actually got worse...
And its like this in all the countries with high vaccination rates....
Follow the science they say... Well the science debunks any claim that the vaccines are effective
Is there any evidence to support the claim that they are? If not then that claim is refuted
As for unwarranted attacks on my character... Im not entering into a discussion with such immature people.
If you want to discuss it then at least act like a civilized human being cos i never attacked anyone.
Not my problem that the facts triggered you
You realized that the right-side spikes largely represent the unvaccinated and what happens when non-vaccine measure are lifted too soon, right?
Right?
Boru
Debating multiple people can be problematic so i'll just debate you for now if you don't mind
You say its the unvaxed... According to who? The mainstream media? With all the misinformation they have been giving they can't be trusted...
I can pull out a claim from conservative media contradicting that, so i prefer to just use the data we have
And if it is the unvaxed then why the continued alarmism... They chose their fate, let them deal with their fate and open up our cities
The claim was that a 70% vaccination rate would stop the pandemic and end lockdowns... Or that vaxing the elderly would do that
It hasn't... The alarmism is still higher than ever and the lockdowns are harsher than ever
An effective vaccine makes a person immune.
But you can still catch and transmit the virus with these experimental vaccines which is why masks, lockdowns and such continue...
The fact that you need booster shots is another obvious fact that they don't work as well as expected
And who are these people testing positive? Cos the anti-vaxers aren't getting tested, thats for sure
To be fair, a counter argument could be that they are working because there are less deaths...
There are indeed less deaths... Doesn't prove it but it supports the claim that their working
But they still continue to focus on cases as the main marker
And my point is that it hasn't ended the pandemic and lockdowns like they said it would nor has it provided immunity
So to conclude...
Are they effective in producing immunity like they claimed? No... You can still catch and transmit covid
Is their claim of it ending the pandemic true? No... The pandemic continues along with all the alarmism that surrounds it
PS. If your wondering im pro choice... I have a doctors exemption for the vaccines so i can exercise my right to choose... Many don't have that right anymore. Their being bribed, blackmailed, extorted, coerced and even held hostage for ransom to take these experimental needles. All of which are criminal offences... Im lucky to be still working as the state i live in Australia hasn't had to deal with it, but on the mainland, its ludacris, more people are dying from lockdown suicides than covid now and many people i know over their are really suffering in many different ways
(September 6, 2021 at 12:30 pm)Rev. Rye Wrote: That said, I should point out that, since this virus is still new to us, we’re still trying to get a handle on a lot of things, including the percentage of the population who’d need to be vaccinated before we reach herd immunity.
That brings up another point. The fact that its a new virus is exactly the reason why there needs to be public debate...
Instead we have heavy censorship of professors, doctors, scientists and other experts who have differing opinions which is totally against science
Stifling debate is the mark of a pseudoscience... The truth doesn't censor
But for now im focusing on the fact that the vaccines haven't provided immunity like they said it would and hasn't ended the pandemic and lockdowns
If you make a claim in science and its wrong then its refuted. If i claim the sun won't come up tomorrow and im wrong then my claim is refuted
They made these claims and they were wrong. Such claims are scientifically refuted... Follow the science they say... Deductive reasoning... Thats science...