RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
April 7, 2020 at 2:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 7, 2020 at 2:15 pm by R00tKiT.)
(April 7, 2020 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: You were presented with piles of them - you simply believe that the mistakes are not mistakes. This is also what I expect from the OP.
I recall responding to you for each one of these supposed mistakes, and I didn't get a reply after that. It's not just because you say this verse is a mistake that I should take your word for it. Even if we are biased to our holy book, if someone actually finds a mistake, he should be able to back us into a corner.
(April 7, 2020 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I'll add one just to get the ball rolling. If the asserted perfection of a magic book indicates that there is a god, then the factual imperfection of said book would be expected to have the reverse effect. Neither you nor our other friend believes this, however. You would both insist that the christian magic book is full of errors, but neither of you think that the christian magic book..being full of errors, means that your allegedly shared god does not exist. There are christians who are also inerrant literalists who make the same claim (and even poiintlessly argue that mistakes are not mistakes) - but you would no more accept that claim or those excuses than I would accept you or our new friends own.
What exactly do you mean by factual imperfection..? Where is it located specifically in the Qur'an..? The gospel accounts were selected out of hundreds other anonymous writings back in the First council of Nicaea.... I don't see how this is even comparable to the Qur'an, which started literally as a pure "audio" book, not written anywhere. It was recorded mouth to ear from hundreds of companions of Muhammad.
I think I already said all holy books presuppose god. In any case, this is very true in the Qur'an, no verse attempts to provide a case for god. And the Qur'an responds literally to every claim Meccan pagans made, and every accusation they threw at the prophet back then. None of these has anything to do with god.
(April 7, 2020 at 1:51 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: In mere reality, the issue of whether or not a magic book is gods word and whether or not it contains internal or external errors are entirely separate questions.
I agree. But again, it would be progress in this kind of discussions if non Muslims just drop this baseless charge of mistakes existing somewhere.