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Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
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RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an?
(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Nope. They are directly contradictory and you cannot resolve them.

They're not, you didn't even point to a contradiction. Creating man from nothing, from blood of clot, from sperm, are just different aspects of creation. It's really moronic to think describing stuff in different, complementary ways is somewhat contradictory.

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You also failed to respond to your BS about the Council of Nicea, which means you are wrong and you know it.

The trinity doctrine was implemented and adopted in the council. The latter, as a result, clearly had a decisive impact on the present-day christian doctrine.

Of course christian literature doesn't acknowledge this, they treat the origin of their gospels as a problem though. There are literally dozens of theories explaining their origin, attempting to solve what they refer to as the synoptic problem. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synoptic_Gospels#Theories

This is enough for me to conclude there is no comparison between the reliability of the Qur'an and that of the O/NT. The former began virtually as an audio book, mouth to ear recitation of hundreds of companions of Muhammad. They heard every word of the Qur'an verbatim from their prophet. This is very very different from what christians face to back up the historicity of their holy book.

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: You also failed to respond to the fact that we already know that there was never an Adam. Because you were wrong and you know it.

How do you know that.. exactly?

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: I know allah is not real so I can call him/her/it/housecat whatever I like and it matters not a whit.

It's really retarded to claim you know some god isn't real. At least say no evidence convinced you.

(April 7, 2020 at 4:59 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Perhaps that offends you and your religious sensibilities? Tough. You do not have a right to be not offended. By anything.

I do believe in the right to free speech, which is why I am even responding to you. But clearly, you do not believe in free speech or the free exchange of ideas because you take offense at my use of the term "allah the shit". Free speech should not be allowed in your mad system. You take offence at the term "allah the shit". Why should I give a flying fuck about your offended sensibility about an imaginary sky fairy? Really. I am seriously asking the question. Why should I care about someone else's delusional magic friend?

Free speech isn't equivalent to being a provocative, impolite ass when discussing with a believer. You can express your disagreement without resorting to insults we regard as blasphemy.

(April 7, 2020 at 6:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Cool story, but we're discussing your contention of a scientific miracle in magic book about carbon..because dust.  Not zombies or cosmic theme parks.

I didn't claim mentioning dust is a scientific miracle per se, it's just a more accurate description than it sounds, and certainly not a mistake. If you come up with stuff that might amount to a "miracle" when asked to provide inconsistencies.. it really means there are none..
And claiming there is a contradiction between saying man is created "from nothing", and "from sperm", is really moronic. It's just different, complementary aspects of creation.

(April 7, 2020 at 6:24 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's clearly not the case, as any number of examples being pointed out to you haven't had that effect.  At least a god telling you the exact same things that anyone else has told you would work...but even there you have to wonder why it would take a god.

It didn't take god telling you anything to believe what you do.

You saw what the last example turned out to be; an accurate description of creation. Don't want to consider it prophetic foreknoweldge ? fine. It certainly isn't a mistake.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by GUBU - April 7, 2020 at 2:54 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by brewer - April 7, 2020 at 9:00 am
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by brewer - April 7, 2020 at 12:33 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by brewer - April 7, 2020 at 10:14 am
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by brewer - April 7, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by Deesse23 - April 7, 2020 at 10:15 am
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by Ranjr - April 7, 2020 at 1:59 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by Duty - April 7, 2020 at 3:02 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by Duty - April 7, 2020 at 2:38 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by Ranjr - April 7, 2020 at 3:05 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by R00tKiT - April 7, 2020 at 7:06 pm
RE: Is there a contradiction in the Qur'an? - by GUBU - April 9, 2020 at 1:41 pm

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