Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: April 29, 2024, 4:58 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
[Serious] What God's justification for eternal torment?
#40
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
(August 19, 2020 at 12:11 am)snowtracks Wrote: God exists and everyone knows it. Creation; Life, Death, and Resurrection of Jesus Christ; Scripture, and conscious awareness through the spiritual component each person has that internally gives knowledge of that fact and recognition that they are moral agents responsible to God. Some desire eternal separation from God and they are granted their wish which is not a punishment. God places more value on freedom than on obedience; would rather have free will with evil, than no free will without evil.

Denial of God's existence is willful suppression of the truth*. 
*The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven (by reading this verse) against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness.   Rom 1:18

Wrong! I do not believe that God does not exist, I know  that he does not exist. To wit:

>The Christian God is defined by mainstream Christianity as being all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, and all just. Yet even a cursory reading of the bible reveals a God who is cruel, unjust, tyrannical, unloving and eternally vengeful. Ergo, the Christian God does not exist by reason of self-contradiction.

>An omnibenevolent, omnipotent, omniscient God, by definition, cannot create evil or permit evil to exist in the world. And yet, evil exists. Ergo, God, as he is defined by mainstream Christianity, does not exist on the grounds of self-contradiction.

>The law of conservation of matter and energy states that the total quantity of energy in the universe remains the same. Matter and energy are interchangeable, but neither can be created or destroyed. Ergo, the universe has always existed and will always exist in one form or another. God is unnecessary by the Principle of Parsimony.

>The natural histories of religions are well-documented. The behavioral causes of religions are well-known. There is no evidence that gods and religions are the products of anything other than human ingenuity and imagination. Ergo, atheism is rational and skeptically unassailable.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Gwaithmir - August 19, 2020 at 7:19 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Smaug - August 24, 2020 at 12:25 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Smaug - September 17, 2020 at 2:08 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Drich - September 9, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Angrboda - September 9, 2020 at 12:10 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Drich - September 14, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 7, 2020 at 6:48 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 8, 2020 at 8:45 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by GUBU - October 11, 2020 at 4:50 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 7, 2020 at 6:23 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 11, 2020 at 2:43 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 11, 2020 at 2:42 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 24, 2020 at 10:33 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 24, 2020 at 10:14 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - November 25, 2020 at 12:33 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 26, 2020 at 10:04 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 25, 2020 at 10:31 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - November 26, 2020 at 12:22 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Chas - December 6, 2020 at 8:09 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - December 15, 2020 at 11:15 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - December 15, 2020 at 11:25 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - December 15, 2020 at 1:39 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  I'm a Universalist - Can anyone convince me of 'Eternal Damnationism'? The Kreisel 16 1444 February 26, 2021 at 3:02 am
Last Post: beepete
  Did Yahweh do us a favor by denying us eternal life? Greatest I am 30 2627 July 26, 2020 at 3:03 pm
Last Post: Greatest I am
  Jesus suffering vs eternal suffering of temporary sinners purplepurpose 72 9378 November 19, 2018 at 4:55 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Eternal afterlife purplepurpose 129 24981 February 14, 2018 at 8:46 am
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  Little children who died without Baptism go to eternal Hell?! Jehanne 34 6050 February 29, 2016 at 6:22 pm
Last Post: Whateverist
  Biblical justification for scripture cherry picking ?? vorlon13 8 2993 November 17, 2015 at 3:00 pm
Last Post: Drich
  Q: What is trans-galactic, eternal and omni-everything? A: God, necessarily? Whateverist 21 5635 August 11, 2015 at 5:31 pm
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Speculate on Jesus 3 days of HELLISH torment !!! vorlon13 136 25672 August 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm
Last Post: McDoogins
  Eternal Hells - Do not exist! themonkeyman 11 4125 June 17, 2014 at 11:01 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  God is god, and we are not god StoryBook 43 12469 January 6, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Last Post: StoryBook



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)