RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
August 22, 2020 at 2:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 22, 2020 at 2:50 pm by Smaug.)
(August 22, 2020 at 8:22 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(August 22, 2020 at 8:10 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: We know by empirical observations that the earth resides in a heliocentric system...
"Although it is not uncommon for people to say that Copernicus proved Ptolemy wrong, that is not true. As in the case of our normal view versus that of the goldfish, one can use either picture as a model of the universe, for our observations of the heavens can be explained by assuming either the earth or the sun to be at rest" -Stephen Hawking, The Grand Design.
I respect your search and your atheism.
Motion is relative. However, all mass within in our Solar System move about a common point known as Barycenter. Since Sun is a very massive object, this point always remains near it's center of mass. Thus it makes sence to say that Earth goes about the Sun and not the other way around.
(August 22, 2020 at 7:54 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(August 21, 2020 at 11:56 pm)Eleven Wrote: Every believer thinks his interpretation of god is special and most true, while also ironically thinking the more stable, logical interpretation of the non-believer is false.
Everything is interpretation; that is the nature of information as it interacts with the human brain.
Not all interpretations are equal though. In the old days people thought that lightnings were manifestations of a deity's anger. This is fairly useless and doesn't even give good clues on how to avoid and prevent lightning strikes. Nowadays people have Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism. This, on the other hand, allows to not only to explain many electrical phenomena such as lighnings but also to build the numerous electrical machines out there that power modern society. Our understanding of how lightnings work can still be much improved but it's miles ahead of the 'deity's anger' interpretation. Physics can instruct you how to construct a lightning rod with given efficiency and religion cannot. Feel the difference.