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[Serious] What God's justification for eternal torment?
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment?
(December 15, 2020 at 8:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: That's all well and good, but I'm wondering about something a little closer to the ground, about what has you convinced and what you're convinced of and whether death is necessary to any of that - or would improve the situaion.  

What about your experience in this life leads you to believe that it's a soul forge,...and, if it is, what kind of soul forge is it (again, according to your experience)?  Additionally, what do you expect to change when you die that might give you more insight than you have now?

I hope to help you get passed the "can't know till im dead" defense mechanism..mostly since you're already making claims as you live.  When thinking about your experiences and what they suggest or imply or otherwise convince you of that you do believe in..you insist that your experience is informative...but when it's pointed out that these things could also be used to more accurately describe or even disprove the contents of that belief, you no longer find experience informative.

If it's true, you can know in this life and have had certifying experiences in this life.  If it's wrong, can't know till you're dead.  Doesn't that seem strange to you?

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RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Smaug - August 24, 2020 at 12:25 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Smaug - September 17, 2020 at 2:08 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Drich - September 9, 2020 at 11:02 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Angrboda - September 9, 2020 at 12:10 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Drich - September 14, 2020 at 3:17 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 7, 2020 at 6:48 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 8, 2020 at 8:45 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by GUBU - October 11, 2020 at 4:50 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 7, 2020 at 6:23 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 11, 2020 at 2:43 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Sal - October 11, 2020 at 2:42 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 24, 2020 at 10:33 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 24, 2020 at 10:14 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - November 25, 2020 at 12:33 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 26, 2020 at 10:04 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - November 25, 2020 at 10:31 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - November 26, 2020 at 12:22 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Chas - December 6, 2020 at 8:09 pm
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Confused-by-christianity - December 15, 2020 at 8:31 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - December 15, 2020 at 11:15 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Foxaèr - December 15, 2020 at 11:25 am
RE: What God's justification for eternal torment? - by Apollo - December 15, 2020 at 1:39 pm

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