RE: Question about "faith"
September 12, 2020 at 9:26 pm
(This post was last modified: September 12, 2020 at 9:44 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 11, 2020 at 1:53 pm)Angrboda Wrote: How do we know what we know apart from feeling like we know?
This is the question you asked, which I answered immediately. If we have no other way of knowing than feeling a certain way about a thing, we know nothing. There are no cognitive propositions, so there can be no true or false propositions. All propositions resolve to feeling a certain way about a thing. Emotivism. I strongly suspect that you hadn't really thought that question, or at least it;s wording through, and staring now at the implications of it being a cognitive statement, it seems so ridiculous that you feel the need to pretend as though you never asked and I'm an asshole for explaining it to you. An asshole for producing a distinction that you asked for, and imagined did not exist. Is that knowledge, or do you feel a certain way about something?
(September 12, 2020 at 5:46 pm)Angrboda Wrote: I suggested no such thing. You did. You asserted that something was true. That assertion implicitly contains the assertion that it can be false. You've been chasing strawmen from the word go. That doesn't really bother me much, but I will point out that any argument that depends on the refutation of a strawman is basically invalid.I asserted that things -can be- true. Don't really have to, mind you, it's a silent but necessary assumption in all logical discourse. I would certainly assert that feeling a certain way about things doesn't exhaust the list of ways that human beings can arrive at knowledge, real or perceived. It doesn't actually matter if that's true, so long as it can be true or false, it's a cognitive position. As mentioned twice now, supposing that we're incapable, then we're incapable, but there's still a difference between cognitivist and emotivist propositions as categories.
Quote:I haven't said this either.Like the answer you got immediately? WTF is wrong with you? If you don't want to suffer, work on better questions. This has been a tedious disappointment. I was wrong, we can't do better. I enjoy a good disagreement, but I refuse to argue the contents of a text exchange into existence. We can disagree about how often human beings engage in the one or the other calling both knowledge - though I doubt we'd really disagree, but we cannot disagree about the things that you and I have written, that are there for anyone to read, yourself included.
Are you prepared to finally answer the question I asked, or am I going to have to suffer through several more posts filled with falsehoods, red herrings, and strawmen from you before I get an answer?
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