RE: Question about "faith"
September 17, 2020 at 7:59 am
(This post was last modified: September 17, 2020 at 8:31 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 16, 2020 at 8:12 pm)tackattack Wrote: Like your apriori assumptions that all faith is unreasonable? It’s clear you feel reason and faith are clearly two separate things. Why are they mutually exclusive? Why does your definition of faith not have a check and balance system? Why couldn’t reason be the very mechanism by which faith can correct itself, thus having a reasonable faith? The answer is found in your biases that religious faith has to be irrational to support your claims.
As usual, the tq fails for the same reason that a tq always fails. They rely on accepting that a person is doing the same thing. A person confusing their strong feelings about faith as something else, would just be one more person confusing their strong feelings about a thing as something other than strong feelings about a thing.
At any rate, if faith is a very strong feeling, ofc it's not rational. The way we feel about things isn't rational and it doesn't have to be. Go ahead, try and tell me that chocolate is better than vanilla.
Would using a-rational help? Irrational has all those negative connotations, a-rational is probably a better description. We don't have to be dumb nutters who can't logic good to feel things, and being smart cookies who can logic doesn't mean that we can't feel a certain way, the same way a nutter does, about the same thing. Jesus, vanilla, britney, america...take your pick.
As for why a person can't have a check and balance system and have faith...I don't know, ask the person who wrote the ye of little faith bit. Their check and balance system got them into a particular kind of shit. It's almost as if the authors of magic book were on to something that contemporary christians just can't accept. I think that shows the creeping effect of secularism inside your jesus loving skulls. You value the sorts of knowledge claims and epistemology we value, even when they stand in competition or contradiction to the value making properties espoused by your religion...and even though it's always very clear that whatever you have going is different than what we have going. Hell, clear that it's different than what you have going over just about any other area of your lives.
It's not reason, or trust, or confidence in any sense related to those terms use in any other context, though I'm sure that you rationalize every square inch of the place, as human beings do with anything we feel. Faith is, and is meant to be, an experience unbound to the facts of the matter of the contents or our ability to appraise them. If it were a cognitive proposition, and could be true or false, and were false - you wouldn't abandon it - you would make it true.
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