RE: The Electoral College
September 19, 2020 at 8:27 pm
(This post was last modified: September 19, 2020 at 8:29 pm by BrianSoddingBoru4.)
(September 19, 2020 at 7:49 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(September 19, 2020 at 7:26 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Why replace it with anything? Simply abolish it and elect your president via the popular vote.
Boru
This is an oversimplification.
There are dictatorships an theocracies whom also have elections, despite popular belief.
Even outside the EC concept, our Supreme Court on countless occasions sided with the minority, even though the majority voted one way.
Again, and I cannot repeat this enough. I am torn on the EC concept.
But lets put it this way, if Gore had lost the popular vote and won the EC how many liberals would complain? If Hillary had lost the popular vote but won the EC how many liberals would complain?
I don't like the EC either. But at the same time, like I have said, there are plenty of other countries in history without an EC that started out open an pluralistic only to fail and end up in closed authoritarian states.
The problem with a pure democracy without checks on even voters, is you are still dealing with human nature and tribalism, and that means powers can con and manipulate for a party or even an individual's favor.
I don't have a solution myself. I will admit that. But selling populism without checks on power is also how dictatorships, despots and theocracies arise.
I don’t think that’s really a valid argument for keeping the EC (and yes, I get that you aren’t advocating for it).
Dumping the EC wouldn’t affect checks on power. Nations with an electoral collegiate aren’t any more or less likely to become despotic than countries without one. Consider your current situation. You have a venal, corrupt chief executive for whom the majority did not vote.
Boru
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