RE: A very clever alien..
November 13, 2020 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2020 at 1:10 pm by Simon Moon.)
(November 12, 2020 at 7:55 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Hi there,
Stop the silly stuff you're doing there. Just imagine some extremely high IQ alien, for whom QM and relativity are kindergarten stuff. This clever alien was able to figure out all our major advances in mathematics instantly. For our alien, following arguments and deducing things is a piece of cake. Earlier today, the alien announced that he reached the absolute best explanation of all observable phenomena in the universe, he even proved that his Theory of Everything cannot be improved any further.
Our same alien asked his wife this night to make dinner for him, as his research work is taking all of his waking time. She wasn't there when he returned home. Feeling completely exhausted, he fell asleep for some minutes, woke up and went for his long-awaited meal.
It appears one of his two kids mercilessly swallowed it. After he confronted them, they simply said : any formal proof that we ate your dinner, sir ? He thought long and hard and couldn't come up with any conclusive proof, that one (or two?) of his kids, as a personal, intelligent agent, went on and devoured his dinner. He just kept asking himself, banging his head, his deduction machine, really hard against the wall : what's wrong with me? I know that these bastards are the possible explanation for my meal's sudden disappearence.. But they're pressing me for some hardcore syllogism with them in the conclusion..? Did these fools really outsmart me ?
Can any atheist here help the alien, and back his kids into a corner?
This is an idiotic false analogy.
The scenario where his meal has been eaten, is a mundane situation. And the evidence required to be pretty sure that one or both of his children ate it, is also mundane. The meal was there, now it's not, his kids were the only ones who had access to it. Case pretty much closed. Even if the father wanted more concrete evidence, he could have their stomachs pumped.
If the kids claimed it was a magical being that ate his dinner, then it is up to them to meet their burden of proof.
How in the f*ck do you think you little hypothetical scenario relates to our not being convinced your god exists? Hint: it doesn't.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.