I have some questions for the posters here.

[Frank Apisa]

I am saying that you CANNOT have an ironclad deductive argument that NO GODS EXIST.

You have a huge advantage over me here. You can show that I am full of Shinola by presenting such an argument.

So...have a go at it.

I don't need to present any argument to show that you are full of shinola.  All I need to do is point out that you have presented no argument or justification for your belief that you know that it is impossible to know that there are no gods.  Asking me to show that you are wrong is an invalid attempt to shift the burden of proof for your claim onto me.  You made the claim, you have the burden of demonstrating the truth of your claim.  So far all you've done is assert a claim.  Now you need to show that you're not simply making vapid claims by trotting out your proof that I have no such argument.  I'm under no obligation to do anything.  You, on the other hand, are.

Present your argument or proof or have your claim summarily dismissed.  That's how it works.  

You're welcome to be skeptical of me.  You're not welcome to claim I cannot have such an argument without justification.  So what is your justification?

(And while you're at it, learn how to quote correctly.  It's not that hard.)


LAST PART FIRST:  I have posted in dozens of Internet fora...and this is the most complex quoting system I've encountered. I acknowledge that I am far from a tech savvy person, so it may just be me missing something easy. In any case, I just cannot figure out how to quote reasonably here, and it is frustrating the crap out of me.  If there is a tutorial on it, I would appreciate being referred to it so I can do a better job of answering. Until I do learn, I hope the other members can put up with my failings.

As for the "I KNOW you cannot validate an assertion of 'There are no gods'"...I'll save you the trouble of dismissing the claim. I withdraw it...and acknowledge that I was wrong to make it. You are correct that the burden falls on me...not you as a refuter. I was wrong...you and the others who mentioned this are correct.
My bad. I apologize.

It IS my opinion that the assertion "There are no gods" cannot be logically or scientifically validated. It is strictly an opinion. The basis of the opinion is that in the decades of debate (on line and in other media) I have never seen an argument that validates the assertion in any real way. 

If anyone here can do it...please do. I would be delighted to see it happen.