RE: I have some questions for the posters here.
June 24, 2021 at 11:08 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2021 at 11:10 am by Frank Apisa.)
(June 24, 2021 at 7:52 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote:(June 24, 2021 at 5:49 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: If you want to think you KNOW there are no gods...fine with me. I am acquainted with people who think they KNOW there is at least one god...and that is fine with me also.No problem man.
There was no "problem" when we began. I just wanted to find the answers to some questions...and I have.
Thank you for your help.
Quote:I live my life without a care about divine punishment, divine commands and divine intervention.You are, an agnostic atheist, as you describe yourself.
I do not "believe" any gods exist...just as I do not "believe" there are no gods.
AND I AM NOT AN ATHEIST.
I AM NOT AN ATHEIST OF ANY KIND.
Quote:Not really a courtesy thing, you describe yourself as an agnostic atheist.
I am not an atheist of any kind.
Quote:Quote:Now you're just fibbing, I know you've seen it at least once.
No...I have not.
Quote:That's an interesting proposition, is it just a guess or an opinion or what have you?
It has been my experience that:
Theists don't particularly like it when you show them the fault in their "logic."
Atheists seem to loathe it when you show them the fault in theirs.
I'm hoping we can all discuss this reasonably.
If you want to deem that to be an opinion...fine with me.
(June 24, 2021 at 9:32 am)Paleophyte Wrote:(June 24, 2021 at 5:49 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: I AM NOT AN ATHEIST.
CAPS don't make you right, they just make you loud. Try bold for emphasis if you need it.
The strict definitions for theist and atheist don't leave any room for anything else. If you believe then you're a theist, if not then you're an atheist. The Law of the Excluded Middle removes all other possibilities. That said, strict definitions rarely work well in a fluid and ever changing society. Many people use nonbeliever instead. I prefer something with a little more class like heathen, infidel, or heretic.
Agnostic is pretty muddled as it tries to insert what we do and don't know into what we believe or don't believe. Two very different beasties. At any rate it doesn't suit you. What you are is Holier Than Thou. You like to think that you're better than theists because they can't prove that god exists. And you like to think that you're better than atheists because we can't prove that god doesn't exist. All the while you're tilting at strawmen on both sides and completely failing at the whole Righteous Rationalist schtick. Meanwhile the rest of us are getting a chuckle out of the fact that we can't disprove your god because you've failed to adequately define it.
I do not do "holier than thou" nonsense.
I do not think I am better than theists or atheists.
Obviously I think my take on the question is the preferred one...which is why I use it. My guess is you think your take on the question is the preferred one...which is why you use it.
Fine with me.