(June 24, 2021 at 11:08 am)Frank Apisa Wrote:(June 24, 2021 at 9:32 am)Paleophyte Wrote: CAPS don't make you right, they just make you loud. Try bold for emphasis if you need it.
The strict definitions for theist and atheist don't leave any room for anything else. If you believe then you're a theist, if not then you're an atheist. The Law of the Excluded Middle removes all other possibilities. That said, strict definitions rarely work well in a fluid and ever changing society. Many people use nonbeliever instead. I prefer something with a little more class like heathen, infidel, or heretic.
Agnostic is pretty muddled as it tries to insert what we do and don't know into what we believe or don't believe. Two very different beasties. At any rate it doesn't suit you. What you are is Holier Than Thou. You like to think that you're better than theists because they can't prove that god exists. And you like to think that you're better than atheists because we can't prove that god doesn't exist. All the while you're tilting at strawmen on both sides and completely failing at the whole Righteous Rationalist schtick. Meanwhile the rest of us are getting a chuckle out of the fact that we can't disprove your god because you've failed to adequately define it.
I do not do "holier than thou" nonsense.
I do not think I am better than theists or atheists.
Then I have to wonder what this is:
(June 24, 2021 at 5:49 am)Frank Apisa Wrote: I know of many atheists who are certain they KNOW that no gods exist...or KNOW that it is more likely that no gods exist than that at least one does.
I think they are all full of soup.
I have never seen any theist who thinks that way...or atheist who thinks that way...come up with any logic or science that rationalizes those guesses.
Theists don't particularly like it when you show them the fault in their "logic."
Atheists seem to loathe it when you show them the fault in theirs.
Clearly you think we're all full of soup (BTW, this is a belief). And we must all be pretty stupid too.