I have some questions for the posters here.

[Frank Apisa]

1) I do not "believe" it. I do not do "believing."

2)  There is absolutely no way anyone can KNOW that no gods exist.

3)  If you are unable to see that...I really do not care.

If number 1 is true, number 2 must be false, and vv. If 3 is true than the entire premise of this thread you created is false.  

....but all I’m asking is -why- you believe 2, or think 2, or are of the opinion 2, or feel 2.  I don’t care what you call it, I will obviously call it anything up to and including a ham sandwich.  I simply want to hear that no 2 explained.  Is there any explanation for why you hold that position that you are capable of expressing?

It’s manifestly obvious, to my understanding, that you strongly whatever no 2.  Why?

First, I strongly disagree with your analysis that if my #1 is true that my #2 must be false. We can discuss that a length if you want.

As to why #2 is manifestly true (and it is):

"There are no gods" is a negative of such universal scope...it simply cannot be proven...which means that NO HUMAN CAN POSSIBLY KNOW IT IS TRUE. So, my statement "There is absolutely no way anyone can KNOW that no gods exist" is true in and of itself.

Let me share a guess...and if you can be honest, please tell me if my guess was correct:

My guess is that you wanted me to assert that one cannot prove a negative...which, of course is absurd...and I would never assert that. And then you were going to say something along the lines of, "Well, just assert that there is not a live, visible, African giraffe in your desk right hand drawer"...and then prove that negative by opening the drawer.

Of course negatives can be proven...but not negatives with the universality of "There are no gods."

What say you, Nudger?  Was my guess correct?