I have some questions for the posters here.

[Frank Apisa]

As to why #2 is manifestly true (and it is):

"There are no gods" is a negative of such universal scope...it simply cannot be proven...which means that NO HUMAN CAN POSSIBLY KNOW IT IS TRUE. So, my statement "There is absolutely no way anyone can KNOW that no gods exist" is true in and of itself.

Ignoring that you've gone back and forth on this like you've got Alzheimer's, you haven't provided any reason to believe that this is true.  Your assertion, while incredulous, isn't a valid argument.

An agnostic presumably would be smart enough not to embrace absolutes casually.  So what is your argument?  Incredulity, as stated above, is not an argument.

What in the name of horseshit would make you think that I want you to "believe" that it is true?

I'm in a fucking war with "believing" Angrboda. For you to word your comment the way you did is beyond comprehension.

NOW...the assertion "There are no gods" is an assertion of such universal magnitude that there is no way to prove it. NO WAY AT ALL.

So...no human can possible know it is true.

That is so...inherently.

Get it...do not get it. Makes no difference to me.

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I have NEVER told you anything about what I "believe" because I do not do "believing." You will never find anyplace a comment from me saying, "I 'believe'...anything."

So stop the bullshit.

When you say you think something, it's semantically the same as saying you believe it. There's no magic to the word 'believe' that gets you out of believing things as long as you don't use that specific word. When I say I think something is the case, it's just another way of saying I believe it's the case. Humans cannot avoid having beliefs.

If you want to ask me about what I think or opine or guess or speculate...do so.

Do not tell me I have to do "believing"...because I do not.