(November 27, 2021 at 11:44 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:(November 27, 2021 at 11:18 am)polymath257 Wrote: I made a choice: that choice was determined by my psychology. I was uncertain about hat I wanted to do, I felt the urge to decide the way I did. And then I did it. How is that *not* 'will'? Willing the choice is part of the causal sequence.
But it isn’t possible to know if you were willing the choice or not. If your ‘choice’ was determined by your psychology, then it isn’t a choice at all - your alleged choice was pre-determined by your psychological make-up, which in turn was determined by your genetics, your environment, your education, your relationships, and so on. And all of these would in turn have been pre-determined by other extrinsic factors.
If the universe is deterministic, there can be no place for free will. You can have one or the other, not both.
Boru
What does it mean to 'will a choice'? If *I* am the one feeling the desire and it is *my* brain where the last significant cause occurs, then how it that *not* my will?
Yes, I fully expect and *want* my decisions to be based on my desires, experiences, etc. otherwise I fail to see how it could be *my* will or to be free.