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How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm...
(October 14, 2022 at 9:04 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(October 14, 2022 at 8:06 am)Jehanne Wrote: For the umpteenth time, the words of Jesus do not exist, as he did not write anything.  Socrates did not write anything either, but at least scholars have Socrates words vis-à-vis Plato, although, it is debated how much of Plato's writings are Plato and how much are Socrates.  None of that exists for Jesus of Nazareth.

Yes, I think everyone here accepts the fact that the words we have attributed to Jesus were written by someone else. People who have studied the subject even a little bit are perfectly fine with the fact that the Jesus we read about may well differ significantly from the one who really existed. The writers were making the points they wanted to make. Plus we know that they interpolated elements of traditional biography which are used to indicate a character's significance. 

But when anyone says "In the Symposium, Socrates says....." it is acceptable to discuss the statement and what is intended by it. We can debate the meaning of the text without specifying every time that this Socrates is at least partly fictional. Debates about just how accurately Plato depicts the character of Socrates are interesting from a historical perspective, but not important when working on the philosophy. 

I'm sure you're right that certain literalists or sola scriptura types will insist on everything in the Bible being an accurate transcript, but I don't think anyone like that is posting here. And it doesn't affect the point that was being made.

The historical evidence is that the Jesus of history is not the Christ of faith that people believe in.
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RE: How do I deal with the belief that maybe... Just maybe... God exists and I'm... - by Jehanne - October 14, 2022 at 10:09 am

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