(October 4, 2011 at 12:23 am)salty Wrote:(October 3, 2011 at 12:12 pm)searchingforanswers Wrote: As a black person (I'm also black btw. random info haha) don't you see the problem with calling homosexuality wrong simply because it's different from the common sexual preference? Seriously, I don't understand. It's discrimination based on sexual preference. Racism is discrimination based on race. You can't help if your born black, you can't help if your born white. You can't help if your born gay, you can't help if your born straight. The whole "they cant make babies"argument is useless when you consider the fact that we still have heterosexuals. So seriously, other than god forbidding it, what is so bad about homosexuality? Like morally bad, causing harm to others. Not "ew. that's not normal." Because that's just discrimination.
The argument "you can't help that you're born gay" isn't accurate.
WRONG! Did you choose to be straight? NO! Bigot, you didn't.
You did however, choose to be ignorant. No excuse for that.
Quote: I admit that some people are born with a more potent desire to be sexually involved with the same gender than others, but it does nothing to define them. What you do in a bedroom with another person is not who you are. Also, people who practice homosexuality aren't always gay.
Correction- They don't always claim to be gay. There are a lot of people out there who pretend to be straight, when they aren't.
Quote: Homosexuality is an attraction (look it up), it's not a state of being, the gay community has created a culture, but it was not always present, Blacks have always had a culture because we were collected from many countries and formed the black American culture through our struggles.
Right, because gay people haven't dealt with struggle at all. They've had all their rights handed to them on the same silver platters on which you try to serve us bullshit.
Gay culture is just as valid as black culture. Their rights are just as valid, and the only bitches who say they aren't do so with the book of god in their hands.
Quote:In addition, this idea that "gay people can't help themselves" is a sad excuse for not owning up to your decisions.
Do you know any gay people? You have no insight whatsoever, so I am willing to bet you don't.
Oh! and like, "Jesus saves us from our sins" ISN'T a cop out. You make whatever repulsive decision you want, and just pass it off to Jesus. HYPOCRITE!
Quote: What do you think my husband would say if he caught me with another man and I said, "I was born this way, I couldn't help it, it's who I am." That's not entirely true. I may have been born with the desire to flirt and be around many men, but I choose how far I will allow those desires to go, no one twists my arm to sleep around, no one tells me to have sexual thoughts about someone, no one forces me to enter a room, take off my clothes...etc. Homosexuality is an attraction that ends in a choice; I will act on this feeling or I won't act on this feeling. People choose for themselves, just like I choose to be committed to my husband because it is immoral for me to find another partner and have a romance with them and sleep with them.
Gay people can be just as faithful in relationships. BEING GAY IS NOT A CHOICE! No more than being black or white. Do you honestly think so many people would subject themselves to the pains of being a homosexual in a bigoted world if they could help it? You're brain is clogged with scripture, or something. Whatever the case, you're highly illogical.
Quote:Really, it's very annoying for people to compare blackness to homosexuality because you'll notice that blackness has nothing to do with actions, but everything to do with what is visibly seen. Homosexuality is based on desire and then acted upon (this is not a private view, call the makers of dictionary.com and see if they'll change their definition to include love and romance I don't think they will). It is only visible if people conform to the standards the gay culture that has been created from the gay community, otherwise we would never know, but Blacks aren't like that, are they? By adopting a new walk, a new hair style, a new way of talking or some kind of fashion it doesn't change the fact that I'm Black does it? Do you think the KKK would refrain from attacking me because I'm wearing a blue dress? "Ohhh I see, you're a part of the white culture now, we like blue." That's ridiculous, their behavior is based on their views of the inferiority of people with dark skin whether black, Indian, Mexican or whatever, they also don't like homosexuals, but how will they know if their behavior is the same as anyone's? That just doesn't work for Blacks.
It's compared to blacks in the sense that one can't help being gay or black.
Salty, you disgust me with your lack of understanding human nature. You do know you're an animal, right?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ani...l_behavior
Quote:As you will notice, moral issues revolve around right conduct, not if they cause harm to others.
ACCORDING TO WHOSE STANDARDS?
Quote: The decision to have sex with a corpse is immoral, but causes no harm to others.
If you found out someone had violated your mother's corpse, that wouldn't hurt you? Please! Having sex with a corpse isn't immoral, it's just weird and gross- To most people.
To some ancient civilizations, it was common practice for religious rituals.
Quote: The decision to steal from people is immoral, but it does no harm to others.
So I am going to come steal everything you have, and I want you to come here and state that no harm was done. Wow. you're really dumb if you think theft hurts no one.
Quote:The decision to lie to people is immoral, but it does no harm to others. So let's put this "it doesn't hurt anyone" thinking behind us, things can be deemed immoral without effecting someone personally and without bringing harm.
You are either the stupidest, or most immoral person I have ever witnessed on or off the internet. You're absolutely wicked. If you really think lying doesn't hurt anyone... holy fucking shit, salty. Get help. I think you might be a sociopath. Seriously.
I know you rarely respond to anything I say, but that is the best compliment you can give me. It's hard for bat shit crazy to argue with rational arguments.
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