(November 28, 2011 at 9:49 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: I've found that all debates with Christians about the "historical Jesus" usually wind up with the Christian improvising a never ending stream of ad hoc hypotheses until you wind up having to prove a negative.
Seriously? And all the various unnamed rich people don't count? How about Joseph of Arimathea? He was a man apparently so rich and powerful as to get a crucified criminal a proper burial. None of them count?
What would satisfy you? The emperor along with the entire Roman senate coming to Judea to speak with Jesus?
No I do not need the Emperor or any one else high ranking, show me where Joseph of Arimathea is mentioned in history, what unnamed rich people, if they had been historically significant we would know their names at the very least. Jesus popularity did not go beyond that small area. Please show me the famous people of history that Jesus knew. The people written about in history were associated with other historical figures or were in prominent positions to be written about, like governors and ect.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
