Seriously.

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His "proposal" relies on these fantasies:

1) Rich people earned it the hard way.
2) You earn what you deserve
3) You magically can support losing percentages of your income when you are low income instead of judging based off of cost of living.

Bullshit.

1.) People earn what they earn. That's the bottom line.
2.) Where the fuck did you get that?! I never mentioned anything about what anyone 'deserves'. Just argue the point if you don't agree and don't resort to creating strawmen. Ya fukin numbnut.
3.) My proposal bases it off of income. Cost of living? What the fuk man I bet the 'cost of living' varies wildly between you and I and all the others here. Why should I have to pay a larger percent of my income than you do (or visa-versa) because of the lifestyle or career CHOICES you, or I, have made?

Damn it! I hate math. So you make 57,000 dollars a year? Why is it you are 'barely making ends meet'?

Because I live in the motherfucking Bay Area and support three people? I live extraordinarily cheaply, take the two hour train to and from my work, and it still is fucking expensive. Did I also mention that I live in the mountains?

See above.

If my entire salary went just to me, you can be fucking assured I'd be A-OK. But I'm not. Why?

Don't really care. Are you argueing that because of the choices you made everyone owes you a break? Somehow we are all morally bound to give you money out of our pockets?

Because the world isn't fucking ideal and many, many people support more than their own hides.

Who said it was? And SO WHAT you support more than yourself. YOU made that choice to do so so YOU should shoulder 100% of the burden.
You are essentially argueing that I am obliged to pay more than you because of the choices you made.

10% of mine is 2500 and I do just fine. But that's beside the point, it's not based on your lifestyle, just your income. So what if Bill Gates has billions left after his 10%? So what if you have $51,300 after your taxes. So what if I have $22,500.

What is it? WHAT IS IT?

Money is not a "magical infinite spring" -- it can be better approximated as a zero sum game. So if Billy G. has billions in storage, what economic good can that possibly do?

None, because it is cloistered away and held like some reservoir.

So the "benefit" (often espoused by trickle-down-cock suckers) is nil even then, because the fucking cash just sits there.

So what. It's his cash to do as he pleases.

We all paid an equal percentile of our income. We earn what we earn.

Do you have anything better than that? I'm not feeling sorry for you or jealous of Bill.

Nope, I think "No, because it will wipe out my support net to help some money-hoarding billionaire families and I fucking don't like it" is a pretty damn good argument.

You fail to show how you are 'helping some money-hoarding billionaire families'. All I see are tears.

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Flat tax works in a non-capitalist society where the taxes go towards collective needs, and not towards wars and non-necessary public spending. If you could be guaranteed free education, health care, etc. with a flat tax then it would be easily accepted. But the problem comes in when everyone pays the same percentage but all of the tax money doesn't go towards collective needs.

non-necessary public spending. Who says what is necessary and what is not? I think here in America if you don't like the way the money is spent or you want it spent another way, you elect officials to represent that.
(why do I have a urge to bust out laughing? When I wrote that it made me laugh.) But seriously, who gets to say what is necessary and what is not?

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The working poor currently have a net negative tax rate (due to credits). The bottom two quintiles pay no tax at all.

My friend (who I spoke of earlier) made $9000 last year and received a $4000 check from the IRS. I know this to be true, I helped her file her taxes.

Under the current system, she has $13k to provide for her family. With a 10% flat tax, no deductions or credits, she has $8100.

Clear enough?

And where did that $4000 check come from? OUR pockets. It didn't magically appear, she got a piece of that from me. All my love to your friend, but if you don't mind helping her then YOU help her. Why am I obliged to hand her some of mine? There is no issue with clarity here, you are failing to provide adequate reasons why I need to pay more of my income, or actually provide income in the case of your friend, than another?