Quote:I simply cannot stand agnostics naming themselves atheists.
All I'll say to that bit of fatuity is ;I don't suffer fools. You are now on ignore.
(that means I cannot see anything you post)
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Quote:I simply cannot stand agnostics naming themselves atheists. All I'll say to that bit of fatuity is ;I don't suffer fools. You are now on ignore. (that means I cannot see anything you post) (December 27, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Little g, god's with no names, no attributes, a clockwork universe that is indifferent to us, and requires nor exhibits any input beyond (and in some cases even extending to) the initial cause -deism. The...clockwork universe was produced by a big G God and is but one more, insulting to human intelligence, idea of respected philosophers with damaged by religion brains. (December 27, 2011 at 4:39 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "Popular tradition" gods like Thor, Ra, Yahweh, Wakan-Tanka are all theistic gods. Big G...gods with names, and attributes. Gods that have some relationship with us, interfere in our affairs our the natural world. I agree with the above! Gods with names are theistic gods. Only the anonymous gods are the traditional gods because they were not 12, as the main Greek gods were supposed to be, or 9 as the Egyptian were supposed to be, or 3 as per the wise Christian dogma, they were MILLIONS!! The opening passage of “The Legend of Re and Isis” reads: Now Isis was a woman who possessed words of power; her heart was wearied with the millions of men, and she chose the millions of the gods, but she esteemed more highly the millions of the pure ones. The Aesir (Asuras in the tradition of India) and the Vanir are not just two groups of gods but two populations of gods. The same happens with the Anunaki and Igigi in the Near Eastern mythology. These two pairs of god populations fought one another in battle where their armies were, of course, composed of god-soldiers. It is quite easy to tell traditional elements from poesy and theology. In the stories written by the supposed author of the Greek epic poems Homer, a beautiful woman or a handsome man walking on the street cannot be known without asking her/him whether she/he is a goddesss/god or human. Yet the same poet assures his audience that “the gods live up in the heavens.” Zeus has no idea what his wife is planning behind his back but “the gods know everything.” In order to tell traditional elements from funny philosophical or poetical additions you only need the key I am offering: little g gods did exist! (December 27, 2011 at 6:59 pm)Epimethean Wrote: The polytheistic gods have been, in their time, as "theological" as any solo divinity. It is only natural! How old do you estimate organized religion to be? 10,000 years, 15,000 years old? (December 27, 2011 at 6:59 pm)Epimethean Wrote: The Hindu system still preserves this, and those who worship do not trace the lineage of their gods to human roots. What did you expect of worshippers? To read their sacred texts and reflect on them?... May I not yet, King Varuna, Go down into the house of clay (grave): Have mercy, spare me, mighty Lord. O Varuna, whatever the offence may be That we as men commit against the heavenly folk, When through our want of thought we violate thy laws, Chastise us not, O god, for that iniquity. King Varuna is god. Note that the removal of the sins requires sharp weapons. O remove ye the sins we have sinned What evil may cling to us sever With bolts and sharp weapons, kind friends, And gracious be ever. From the snare of Varuna deliver us, ward us, Ye warm-hearted gods, O help us and guard us.(From the Rig Veda) To me it is like reading the Egyptian funerary texts: they pray for their lives “Not to go down to the grave”! Worshipers!... They are naïve kids. (December 27, 2011 at 6:59 pm)Epimethean Wrote: "Deus" and "Deva" are most likely related words, the former deriving from the latter. I capitalized the first because it was the first word in a sentence, the latter because it is the proper name of a god. The issue of capitalization is simply the missing "name" of the xtian god, which has conferred upon it the benefit of capitalization to distinguish it in the context of all the other gods. This disappears if we call him "Yahweh" or some other name, because we might well see this name in the context of other lower case gods. But, as xtians are fearful of pissing off their god, they capitalize the name even when it is absent. It is transference capitalization. For my part I capitalize in order to distinguish the God of monotheistic religions from the many gods of polytheistic religions. Even in English you have to write the sentence “The God is the father of the gods” with upper and lower case respectively.
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Yuri Lotman RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 28, 2011 at 3:36 pm
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So did little l leprechauns. Little stooping lugh takes on a whole new meaning..lol.
"w"erewolves "w"itches so on and so forth ad infinitum.
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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill
December 29, 2011 at 5:37 am
(This post was last modified: December 29, 2011 at 5:38 am by dtango.)
(December 28, 2011 at 3:36 pm)Rhythm Wrote: So did little l leprechauns. Little stooping lugh takes on a whole new meaning..lol. Excellent explanation for the queer fact that the Indian people believed, as the Egyptian, Greek and Sumerian did, that in order for one to survive, to go on living, the gods should cut away pieces of his flesh. “Imagination”! The magical word!! God planted his god-module into our brains so that we all imagine the same things at the same time until we eventually discover him. At times, agnostics’ reasoning is more entertaining and amusing than theists’.
"Culture is memory"
Yuri Lotman
Ignorance is a bliss.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
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