Theists: Why do you love God?

[ElDinero]

You can try and play the condescending card back at me if you want, but I doubt you have the wit to manage it. You have proven time and again with your posts that you understand nothing. My claim that you don't understand things is based entirely on your posts which demonstrate this all the time. I notice you're still refusing to answer most of my questions. Bravo.

if the earth is 6000 years old, this form of dating cannot be accurate b/c there won't be a single rock old enough for it to get an accurate date on it.

This proves beyond a doubt my point that you have already made your mind up, and throw out any evidence that is contradictory to your position. You're saying that any dating method that claims something is older than 6000 years old is unreliable because you believe the Earth is 6000 years old. If you can't understand why this is a fucking idiotic, circular argument, then you should probably get off the internet before you hurt yourself. Go back to school. It isn't 6000 years old, the scientific evidence in dozens of different fields has established this beyond any doubt whatsoever. As I said before, only a lunatic or someone extremely stupid could believe the things you believe. Pick your camp.

[chi pan]

You're saying that any dating method that claims something is older than 6000 years old is unreliable because you believe the Earth is 6000 years old.

no, i'm saying using that dating method to date rocks younger than 6000 years old is inaccurate and as a result if the earth is that age then all rocks would be inaccurate to date using that method.

[ElDinero]

But the Earth isn't that age, so why does it matter? I literally have no idea why you're making this 'point'. If you're just saying 'potassium-argon dating cannot accurately date young rocks', then yes, that may well be true. So what? I never even brought up K-Ar dating, you did.

Now, you're continually ignoring several questions I have raised regarding polar bears and my response to the point YOU made about clam shells, which you thought was so devastating and such excellent proof of a flood, and seeing you avoid these points over and over again is getting tiresome. So since you brought it up and have ignored my response to it including me telling you how to find the answer, I'll ask you one more time: Why do clam shells appear in mountains?

Don't respond to me until you've gone and found the answer, there's a good boy.

[chi pan]

But the Earth isn't that age, so why does it matter?

unless you have further evidence to back that up, it's just an assumption to say those dating methods are accurate.

I literally have no idea why you're making this 'point'. If you're just saying 'potassium-argon dating cannot accurately date young rocks', then yes, that may well be true. So what? I never even brought up K-Ar dating, you did.

the point is that if it's inaccurate and scientists know this then that means they are deliberately distorting science. reminds me of the whole global warming ideal.

what about the fossils?

I'll ask you one more time: Why do clam shells appear in mountains?

well ignoring the first 2 links in the google search (b/c they don't give the answer you want... how scientific) you get this

Briefly, it goes like this: As the Indo-Australian Plate, with India firmly embedded, approached the Eurasian continent 20 million years ago, its leading edge, comprised of oceanic crust, was first to be crumpled and uplifted. Slowly, the Himalayas rose and the leading oceanic crust of the Indian sub-continent, carrying the fossilized remains of its ancient ocean inhabitants, was thrust up by the crumpling crust in its wake. Thus, plate tectonics explains how the majestic peaks of one of the world’s great mountain ranges were once the deep sea-floors of an ancient drifting plate.

so basically mountains in the middle of asia were once in the ocean. ok sure.

[Shell B]

Why wouldn't mountains have once been in the ocean? We still have mountains in the ocean. Fucking-double-duh. I keep getting sucked into this ignorant bullshit. Why would anyone want to reverse the forward momentum of the human race by literally making up and taking as truth anything that supports their presupposed conclusion? It's freaking baffling!

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You lied about Google again, Chip. Click this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+clam+shells+...+mountains

The first two links are not any different. Stop the fucking dishonesty! That is twice you have claimed Google supported you. Both times, you were full of shit.

[ElDinero]

Yeah, chipan, we're done. It bears repeating that nobody here has ever been as stupid as you are. You are probably the stupidest person I've ever encountered on the entire internet. You're a liar, a pathetic human being who twists arguments to suit their own ends and ignores mountains (literally in this case) of evidence because it flies in the face of your crappy little religion, and you are hilariously inept at reason, logic and using basic English (remember when you spelled potassium 'patissium'? Hahahaha, what a fucking idiot you are). You're a disingenuous little cunt, and I'm not going to waste any more of my time on you.

I hope that if you ever require medical treatment, you show the same distrust of science as you show in every other place that contradicts your religion and refuse the medical care offered, since many of the breakthroughs in medical science have only been possible thanks to our understanding of DNA and evolution. One less idiot clogging up the planet will always be a good thing to me.

so basically mountains in the middle of asia were once in the ocean. ok sure.

Hahahhaha, you really are a dunce. Literally unbelievable levels of stupidity.

[chi pan]

You lied about Google again, Chip. Click this http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+do+clam+shells+...+mountains

i didn't look up those words exactly. idr exactly what i typed but the first 2 links i got were about the flood and how science proves it.

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oh here i looked up this "why does sea life fossils appear in the mountains"

[Soyouz]

You're saying that any dating method that claims something is older than 6000 years old is unreliable because you believe the Earth is 6000 years old.

no, i'm saying using that dating method to date rocks younger than 6000 years old is inaccurate and as a result if the earth is that age then all rocks would be inaccurate to date using that method.

Yeah because the bible is very accurate...



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[chi pan]

Yeah because the bible is very accurate...

example where it has been historically or scientifically inaccurate? besides theories of evolution. there are a few scientific claims in the bible that are surprisingly accurate. and of course, it has tons of history in it.

[reverendjeremiah]

then i guess we agree reverendjeremiah except for the part where you think the flood didn't happen of course

The part where I "think" the flood didnt happen?

This isnt something I just come up with...there is not one single core sample, out of the thousands and thousands that have been cored, that even REMOTELY hints to a world wide flood....

...most ESPECIALLY a flood that covered the highest mountain by 15 cubits.

They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. 20 The waters rose and covered the mountains to a depth of more than fifteen cubits.

So the flood waters go 25 foot over the top of Mount everest, making the new water table somewhere very close to 29,054 feet altitude.

25,000 feet is the highest that clouds can remain clouds without being forced back down from the cold. That means the flood waters went 4 thousand feet over the maximum height that a cloud can exist at.

So were the clouds 4 thousand feet under water still shooting rain water out of them?

When an airliner is flying at an altitude of 30,000 feet, the temperature of the air outside may be as low as -30 F. The air is so thin that breathing becomes the only think that humans can focus on without air tanks.

So here is noah, his arc floating 4 thousand feet above the rain clouds, gasping for breath in almost -30 temperatures, many animals and species dying and going extinct because of the almost total lack of oxygen and the extreme freezing temperatures. Og the giant sitting on top of the arc surely would have died, requiring much more oxygen than other smaller creatures. Carcasses of animals, plant life, and humans (including pregnant women whom God drowned) would be floating all over the place...and that isnt even counting the pressure of the rain fall.

In order for the amount of rain to fail in the amount of time suggested in the bible, the pressure of the falling rain would have been greater than a sand blaster.Many mountains would have been scoured smooth and pulverized, depending on the type of rock they were made of. Biological matter would have been pulverized into a paste.

If the Noahs ark story is true, then NO life would have survived on this planet, including Noah.

All fresh water would have been ruined as it would have mixed into the salt water. Fresh water species would have died, not only of the salt water mix, by they could not survive at the new altitude of 30k feet and -30 degrees F. All fresh water fish would have easily become extinct. Animals who were taken from Africa would have died from lack of oxygen and the severe cold. Artic animals might have survived if they were in a deep slumber. Polar bears would have gone extinct.

but sure...i "think" the flood didnt happen.

Show me your evidence for a world wide flood that covered the highest mountain...and this is a BIG claim, I expect some impressive evidence

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You're saying that any dating method that claims something is older than 6000 years old is unreliable because you believe the Earth is 6000 years old.

no, i'm saying using that dating method to date rocks younger than 6000 years old is inaccurate and as a result if the earth is that age then all rocks would be inaccurate to date using that method.

LMFAO...What? There is no WAY the Earth is that young, and there are MASSIVE amounts of evidence that prove the Earth to be ancient.

Explain how the Grand Canyon forms in 6 to 10 thousand years.

Exaplain how mt. Everest can reach 27 thousand feet in 6 to 10 thousand years.

Exaplin how the moon can become so covered in crators in 6 to 10 thousand years

There are massive, MASSIVE crators around this planet. Explain how these crators can be so huge as to cause an explosion that could almost extinct all life on the planet, yet not a single one of these impacts were recorded in the bible...some of these crators can be found within miles of places where the events in the bible supposedly taken place.