Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?

[Greatest I am]

Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?

In reading and discussing the O T, I have noted that the Jewish view is in some cases completely opposite of what the Christian view is.
I E. The Jews see Eden as man’s elevation to a moral sense, while Christians see Eden as man’s fall. Jews do not recognize original sin while Christians do.

Jews also do not read the O T as literal and historic while Christians do.

Whose interpretation should hold precedence? The Jewish view or the Christian one?

When Christianity usurped the Jewish God, should they have also usurped their interpretations as well, instead of reversing them?

Regards
DL

[Zen Badger]

The important thing to remember is that the purpose of religion is to keep the populace subservient and submissive. In that light christianity is more authoritative since it makes people feel guilty just for being alive. Think of humanity being born into sin, you're fucked from the start.
And people that have the mindset that they should be forever begging for divine forgiveness are so much easier to control and manipulate.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

I thought Jews were the one who built up an entire philisophical way of thinking based upon guilt?
Also, isn't it Catholics who ascribe to "original sin?"

[Minimalist]

I suspect that both are wrong.

[reverendjeremiah]

It depends on which one you ask..and which sect...and which country the sect lives in....and what extra community that sect lives in...and whatever splits or branches may have come about from those branches.

...just sayin...

[Jackalope]

I thought Jews were the one who built up an entire philisophical way of thinking based upon guilt?
Also, isn't it Catholics who ascribe to "original sin?"

Catholics are Christians. Most Protestant sects have original sin as part of their doctrine as well, whether they call it something else or not.

[Greatest I am]

The important thing to remember is that the purpose of religion is to keep the populace subservient and submissive. In that light christianity is more authoritative since it makes people feel guilty just for being alive. Think of humanity being born into sin, you're fucked from the start.
And people that have the mindset that they should be forever begging for divine forgiveness are so much easier to control and manipulate.

You forgot----and get $$$$$$$ out of.

Regards
DL

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I thought Jews were the one who built up an entire philisophical way of thinking based upon guilt?

Not that I know of. No guilt in man's elevation, only in his fall.

Also, isn't it Catholics who ascribe to "original sin?"

Yes. There is the guilt we are talking about.

Regards
DL

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I suspect that both are wrong.

Jews see Eden as a myth and in that sense there is no right way or wrong way of seeing it.

Christians are inflexible and to them it was definitely wrong for man to become as Gods even as scriptures urge us to be just as perfect as God is.
How that can be done without the knowledge of good and evil is never laid out or explained.

Regards
DL

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It depends on which one you ask..and which sect...and which country the sect lives in....and what extra community that sect lives in...and whatever splits or branches may have come about from those branches.

...just sayin...

And well said.

Regards
DL

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Whose view of the O T is authoritative? Jewry or Christianity?

I don't understand the question. The OT is no more than the mythology of a minor tribe of bronze age goat herders.The Torah was not even written down until ca seventh century bce.. I can't see that different versions make any material difference ALL are copies--of-copies- of- copies going back centuries.


The oldest copy of the OT still extant dates from 900 CE;the result of over 1000 years of repeated copying, by hand.

[chi pan]

isn't it Catholics who ascribe to "original sin?"

well many denominations believe that. the whole thing is that "everyone is a sinner by nature and by choice."


the difference between the 2 is that christians believe Jesus was the masiah who brought salvation to the world and Jews do not. also note christianity doesn't take anything away from the jewish faith, it just adds on. hygene laws are replaced with up to date hygene methods, and the sabbath is not as closely followed by christians (if followed at all) but all the laws still apply. notice Jesus added onto the laws by saying things like it is said do not murder but i say unto you if you hate your brother (means neighbor) you have already committed murder.

[Faith No More]

I learned a new word today. 'Jewry'