RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:18 am
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[split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
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RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:18 am
![]() Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:22 am
People eh?? Or should I say more correctly governments?
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:33 am
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2012 at 10:33 am by kılıç_mehmet.)
(January 5, 2012 at 10:22 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: People eh?? Or should I say more correctly governments? Well, people are the governments. I won't lie, as I sense the anti-israeli sentiment that is on the rise in Turkey. It has been artificially created, true, since we harbored no traditional dislike towards jews throughout the time, nor such exceptional friendship, but were generally neutral, as they were mostly loyal subjects of the Empire, more so than some others. But well, they are gone now, so why worry? They have their own country, which is fine by me, and they're at odds with some arabs, who had a history of stabbing us in the back with forks, and we still support the arabs? I don't think that the ummah mentality applies here, if it did, it'd certainly apply back then when the arabs were flaunting our laws, harboring our enemies. It seems like they had gone unpunished, for now at least... The jews? They were happy to sit back in their homes and generally stay out of the conflict zone back in those days. Since remaining neutral was in and of itself, a rather honourable deed where the rest turned traitor, I keep that in mind, and generally harbor no ill will. But I can't say I trust them more than the arabs themselves, with or without governments. It's just the way it has to be, you see. Not on a "personal" level, like you and me sitting and having a cup of tee. But I see the international Jewry as a nation of it's own right, just as I see the Turks of the world as a single nation. So I remain skeptical of any of their moves towards us as a nation. But as I said, on a personal level, I am skeptical towards everyone. Who can you really trust beside yourself and the spirit of your kin? ![]() Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:37 am
Quote:Who can you really trust beside yourself? Have to agree mate... certainly not governments. And personal friends and relatives?? Well. Been there done that got the T-shirt and the DVD. Still I would like to think that the majority of people everywhere are reasonable...I am so often disappointed. meh
"The Universe is run by the complex interweaving of three elements: energy, matter, and enlightened self-interest." G'Kar-B5
RE: [split] VckyRo pontificates about Communism (the kind with a big C)
January 5, 2012 at 10:44 am
(January 5, 2012 at 10:37 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote:Well, I speak of myself in two terms.Quote:Who can you really trust beside yourself? I am, myself, an individual. And I, as an individual, am part of a larger nation that is compromised of kin in blood and tongue. I rather put my trust in these. Not that I do not trust my relatives to assist me in dire times of need, but I rather trust myself first. Governments...Well, as I said, with the current system of democracy, governmetns come and go, with public opinion ever changing...So what really matters? I don't trust them, but I'd rather have every Turk with a healthy measure of skepticism towards such..politicians, whose loyalties are always under question, in my eyes, at least. ![]() Üze Tengri basmasar, asra Yir telinmeser, Türük bodun ilingin törüngin kim artatı udaçı erti? |
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