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A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
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A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
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Atheism is ,as we all know, a negative position towards belief in a deity or deities, claiming that the believer in god didn't base his belief on conclusive scientific grounds, and since this religious position is held regardless of science, therefore it can be considered unscientific or even a belief in a myth.

if this understanding of atheism is true, then I might proceed to my point.

we can see that the validity of the atheistic position is assumed to be taken from the validity of science, thus appointing science to be the higher judge of the validity of any claim. How did we know that science is what evaluates every single claim? we knew from the idea that everything in life is matter/energy,and science is the most reliable way to know matter, i.e. to know everything.

However, if we believe that life is not only matter/energy, that we live in two worlds physical and metaphysical, then science (i.e. material science) will still obtain its respected status, but only in the material world, because we can't enter the immaterial world with science‘s material tools.

In the case of belief in the materiality of everything in life, and the case of belief in the material and immaterial worlds together, science has nothing to say. Scientifically, we cannot know whether life is only material nor material and immaterial. Therefore, the belief that life is only material is unscientific (but not necessarily anti-scientific).

Since the belief that there is no immaterial world is unscientific, then it is unscientific to use science as the most reliable way to evaluate every claim. Therefore, atheism is an unscientific position.


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RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
Can I have some Bleu Cheese dressing on this word salad please?
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RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
Garbage in, garbage out!
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Still hoping to see some thoughts about what I wrote, not emotions..
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Atheism is the response "I don't believe you." to the claim "God exists."

That's it, nothing more. Anything else is an additional position.
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(January 15, 2012 at 8:35 pm)a moment Wrote: Still hoping to see thoughts about what I wrote, not emotions..

I did tell you my thoughts by saying it's a word salad. Guess you don't want to understand that is just a shorter way of saying your post is just a lot of words that say nothing.

Now can I have that Blue Cheese dressing please?
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RE: A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
Ok, atheism is simply the position that an individual holds concerning the belief in a god or gods in that the individual simply does not believe such an entity exists.

This may or may not have anything to do with science, philosophy or anything else, it all depends upon the atheist in question.

Therefore you premise that science is at the core of atheism is faulty and any conclusion that you come to based on that faulty premise must also be faulty, hence, garbage in, garbage out.
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(January 15, 2012 at 8:37 pm)dloubet Wrote: Atheism is the response "I don't believe you." to the claim "God exists."

That's it, nothing more. Anything else is an additional position.

I didn't disagree with that, so why did have to confirm it??
(January 15, 2012 at 8:38 pm)Phil Wrote: I did tell you my thoughts by saying it's a word salad. Guess you don't want to understand that is just a shorter way of saying your post is just a lot of words that say nothing.

Now can I have that Blue Cheese dressing please?

I need you to use your brain a little before you fill your stomach, do you really think that you can refute an argument just by saying "it‘s nothing"?

ok, your reply is nothing.. here is your cheese dressing.
(January 15, 2012 at 8:40 pm)Darwinian Wrote: Ok, atheism is simply the position that an individual holds concerning the belief in a god or gods in that the individual simply does not believe such an entity exists.

This may or may not have anything to do with science, philosophy or anything else, it all depends upon the atheist in question.

Therefore you premise that science is at the core of atheism is faulty and any conclusion that you come to based on that faulty premise must also be faulty, hence, garbage in, garbage out.

then it is evident from my post that my atheists in question are the ones who claim to choose atheism on scientific basis. if you are not one them you may leave this thread along with your garbage.

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A New Way of Looking at Atheism..
Since atheism predates science by thousands of years your premise is invalid.
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Bounce Ball

Your premises are faulty pertaining to those on this forum
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