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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 28, 2012 at 11:31 pm
I've always felt that the great flood is a perfect illustration of what a bumbling, incompetent klutz jehovah really is.
Any halfway decent deity would've just struck all the evil people down with something amusingly terminal like exploding hemorrhoids.
But no, the best Yo-Yo can come up is to destroy the whole biosphere in the most inefficent manner he can think of.
If you're not supposed to ride faster than your guardian angel can fly then mine had better get a bloody SR-71.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 28, 2012 at 11:53 pm
I've always considered this observation, by the allegedly pagan philosopher Celsus in the 2d century, to be right on point. Unlike the xtians, he believes in a competent god!
Quote:"God does not inflict correction on the world as if he were some unskilled laborer who is incapable of building something properly the first time around; God has no need to purify what he has built by means of a flood or a conflagration (as they teach)."
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm
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(January 28, 2012 at 3:31 am)Godschild Wrote: (January 27, 2012 at 8:48 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (January 27, 2012 at 1:13 am)Godschild Wrote: Have you even read the flood account, doesn't sound like it.
ZB Wrote:Yes, I've read it and so I imagine has everyone here.
Here's a linky http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/gen/5.html
Your point? Quote: Can tell you do not know much about boat building.
ZB"]Oh please tell us how an illiterate goat herder who knew NOTHING about ship building managed to construct a vessel several times larger than the available technology would allow when this http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...dcXMfMXBhA failed to work even though it was built by a professional shipyard.
The schooner and the ark are two totally different ships, the ark was built to float, not to be under power. Theres an ark built to the measurements in scripture, guess what it floats and has been towed by a tug and is still floating.
[/quote Wrote:ZB Wrote:Oh, you mean this one here......
http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&...N5jCqtVRrw
The one built by a Dutch cretinist THAT SITS ON 25 STEEL BARGES AND HAS A HUGE FUCKEN STEEL BEAM RUNNING DOWN THE MIDDLE TO HOLD IT ALL TOGETHER!!!!
That one?
Yes, I'm sure that is an exact replica of the supposed original.
Word of advice GC, be careful of what you offer up as proof.
Because we can check
You are right, the site I found it on said nothing of the barges, I will do more research next time.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm
(January 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are right, the site I found it on said nothing of the barges, I will do more research next time.
Please do G-C. It only makes you look extremely childish if you don't.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 1:33 am
(January 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: (January 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are right, the site I found it on said nothing of the barges, I will do more research next time.
Please do G-C. It only makes you look extremely childish if you don't.
Childish, no, hurried at the time yes, like I said I'll try to do better,OK.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 1:44 am
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(January 29, 2012 at 10:42 pm)Godschild Wrote: You are right, the site I found it on said nothing of the barges, I will do more research next time.
Childish, no, hurried at the time yes, like I said I'll try to do better,OK.
Childish, no, Infantile, yes. Why don't you set aside your bible and do about 15 years of study, (illiterate preschoolers usually require only 8-9 years, but we cut you the slack needed by a fundamentalist) starting with non biblically muddied history, basic physics, geology, and biology, then you will be ready not to talk back, but to receive our instructions on how to do beginner's research, Ok?
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 2:48 pm
Quote:You are right, the site I found it on said nothing of the barges, I will do more research next time.
..and please dont stop there GC, there is much that you havent researched. there were thriving civilizations 6 to 10 thousand years ago...and I am sure they would be very confused to see Jahovah suddenly "create the world out of nothing", especially since they were already standing on the world at the time.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm
(January 28, 2012 at 9:15 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (January 28, 2012 at 7:39 pm)padraic Wrote: (January 28, 2012 at 6:41 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: Aye, the whole - Larger the base, the taller the tower. The greater the surface area the greater the load. Noah's ark doesn't exactly qualify. So, it's length and as well as it's design will prove disastrous.
It seems the Chinese understood concepts such as load -bearing stress and centre of gravity, but God did not.
Oh, our deluded little pet claimed that ships were not caulked before they were launched.He really doesn't have a clue,does he.
Not only are the chinese smarter than us, but apparently they are smarter than God.
the ships were caulked usually with hemp rope, pitch, and hemp wax or bees wax.
This just in:
Scientists have just discovered the actual ark from the biblical story of Noah. They rolled it over to have a look at its construction, and found a huge "Made in China" sticker still attached to the hull.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm
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(January 30, 2012 at 2:54 pm)Strongbad Wrote: Scientists have just discovered the actual ark from the biblical story of Noah. They rolled it over to have a look at its construction, and found a huge "Made in China" sticker still attached to the hull.
That's a different antedliluvean china, not the people's republic of china, which, like the rest of the world, consist entirely of inbred descendants of noah, as any bible believing christian can tell you.
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RE: How many miracles needed in the Noah myth?
January 30, 2012 at 3:27 pm
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(January 30, 2012 at 3:15 pm)Chuck Wrote: That's a different antedliluvean china, not the people's republic of china, which, like the rest of the world, consist entirely of inbred descendants of noah, as any bible believing christian can tell you.
Indeed. Inbreeding just the once is bad enough but to inbreed many times over is quite simply genetic suicide.
Once carries a very high risk of genetic disorders.
Twice and the likely hood of fatality due to inbreeding is extremely likely.
The idea of doing several times could be considered near impossible. Also seeing as the offspring are very likely to be born infertile.
Inbreeding = Very bad idea.
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