More Ron Bashing

[Bgood]

Paintpooper wrote

We are allies with Saudi. Sell them weapons and huge military contracts in the billions of dollars. There was a thread awhile back of Bush kissing Saudi kings.
And fucking Bin Laden was a Saudi. The financial interests of the bin Laden family are represented by the Saudi Binladin Group, a global oil and equity management conglomerate grossing $5 billion US annually, and one of the largest construction firms in the Islamic world.

The plot thickens.....

Oh trust me Saudi is WHO we should have went after, but thats not how they want it or how it it set up.

They have the worse human rights of any of those country's. It's hypocrisy at it's best. That's how I know, Libya, Syria, Iran... all lies and bullshit. Cause the real human rights abuser we sell weapons too!!! A long with Israel, that is basically a terrorist nation/US presence in the middle east, to conduct covert operations in the area.

Hmm...more circumstantial evidence to support the 9/11 inside job conspiracy. It seems that when all the political dots are connected and the biggest picture comes into clearer view, it always supports the conspiracy theory. Is is just coincidence? Is it just millions of people's imagination that an inside job fits perfectly into the government's foriegn policy agenda and what turn of events have been happening ever since the attacks? It seems so obvious that it was an inside job that it makes me sick. As a student of history, these kinds of deadly scare tactics and propaganda ploys are old hat. These war provoking, invasion justifying methods can probably be traced all the way back to the conflicts between the Athenians and Spartans of Ancient Greece. We have learned and mimicked democracy from this brilliant culture, what else did we learn from them that might not be so readily taught in classrooms around the world? Just my own idea on things and how much the public is truly in the dark on most things of such grand scope. The more I learn about and observe the subtleties of the political-media arena, I question the validity of nearly everything that goes on in Washington anymore. American people need to come together and restructure our country's future with an optimistic mindset if any real democratic progress is going to be made. It is really no joke, and we should all be willing and able to contribute honestly for this noble cause.

[paintpooper]

Paintpooper wrote

We are allies with Saudi. Sell them weapons and huge military contracts in the billions of dollars. There was a thread awhile back of Bush kissing Saudi kings.
And fucking Bin Laden was a Saudi. The financial interests of the bin Laden family are represented by the Saudi Binladin Group, a global oil and equity management conglomerate grossing $5 billion US annually, and one of the largest construction firms in the Islamic world.

The plot thickens.....

Oh trust me Saudi is WHO we should have went after, but thats not how they want it or how it it set up.

They have the worse human rights of any of those country's. It's hypocrisy at it's best. That's how I know, Libya, Syria, Iran... all lies and bullshit. Cause the real human rights abuser we sell weapons too!!! A long with Israel, that is basically a terrorist nation/US presence in the middle east, to conduct covert operations in the area.

Hmm...more circumstantial evidence to support the 9/11 inside job conspiracy. It seems that when all the political dots are connected and the biggest picture comes into clearer view, it always supports the conspiracy theory. Is is just coincidence? Is it just millions of people's imagination that an inside job fits perfectly into the government's foriegn policy agenda and what turn of events have been happening ever since the attacks? It seems so obvious that it was an inside job that it makes me sick. As a student of history, these kinds of deadly scare tactics and propaganda ploys are old hat. These war provoking, invasion justifying methods can probably be traced all the way back to the conflicts between the Athenians and Spartans of Ancient Greece. We have learned and mimicked democracy from this brilliant culture, what else did we learn from them that might not be so readily taught in classrooms around the world? Just my own idea on things and how much the public is truly in the dark on most things of such grand scope. The more I learn about and observe the subtleties of the political-media arena, I question the validity of nearly everything that goes on in Washington anymore. American people need to come together and restructure our country's future with an optimistic mindset if any real democratic progress is going to be made. It is really no joke, and we should all be willing and able to contribute honestly for this noble cause.

Yes this shit has been going on for years and years. People seems to develop some cognitive dissonance when they hear about conspiracy theories because it goes against the "mainstream" way of thinking. Which is actually the controlled media telling you how to think, because all information comes down from certain central sources, and it is all laid out for us, no critical thinking required. But the second you start to use critical thinking, logic, and rational thought you uncover that the "mainstream" version of events, can actually be quite contradictory to facts and logic and that is where the questions arise, hence the creation of a "conspiracy theory" which has a negative connotation attached to it IMO.

I take no news article at face value, we must re learn to think in this country, for too long we have had these people in power do the thinking for us and look there is has got us.

All these things are not coincidences, I stopped believing in coincidences awhile ago.

Also back to Ron Paul. To whoever said he was going to abolish the EPA and that was your reasoning behind hating the man. I read up on it, and the fact is he only wants to start with cutting 30% of the EPA budget. You can read all the financial documentation on Ron Paul's website.
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/the-issues/ro...e-america/

[The Grand Nudger]

Can a letter arrive on time to destination by way of federal efforts? No. But apparently, theyre pulling the strings on the whole world. The postal thing is probably some sort of sick psychological experiment as well. Sons of bitches..

[Bgood]

People are afraid of Ron Paul. That's what it is! This was my ecstatic epiphany for the day. He is too radical. He wants to upset the apple cart. He wants to change too many things. Americans react in fear, They are too conservative. They are afraid. But I sympathize with them, especially the older seniors who depend on social security. They are the greatest voting population and I think Paul misrepresents himself to them. I think he needs to hone his message as do I. There is a great wave building, it takes great minds LIKE US, the atheist crew, to decipher the signs and deliver mankind to a better way of life! Peace out my little buddhas Meditate briefly and look at yourself in the mirror with compassion and love.

[reverendjeremiah]

People are afraid of Ron Paul. That's what it is! This was my ecstatic epiphany for the day. He is too radical. He wants to upset the apple cart. He wants to change too many things. Americans react in fear, They are too conservative. They are afraid. But I sympathize with them, especially the older seniors who depend on social security. They are the greatest voting population and I think Paul misrepresents himself to them. I think he needs to hone his message as do I. There is a great wave building, it takes great minds LIKE US, the atheist crew, to decipher the signs and deliver mankind to a better way of life! Peace out my little buddhas Meditate briefly and look at yourself in the mirror with compassion and love.

Are you kidding me?

Im an anarchist. Ron Paul doesnt do enough as far as I am concerned.

The only problem is, what he want to take out is NOT what is the problem, and some of it doesnt need removal. Some of it needs to be shifted to become non-centralised.

The fuck if I want the country to go further right before we dump the government. Might as well just start rounding up the slaves and selling them now.

[Bgood]

To Rev Jerry,

i respect your opinions bro, but i seriously think you are too judgemental on ron Paul. He is not as right wing as the media portrays him. He is totally old school! He defintily knows how business goes down in Washington, he's been in Congress for over 30 years??? I don't mean to sound like a fundie prick but Ron Paul has some very revolutionary ideas compared to the rest of the field OMG. Why do you think so many young college educated people support him Rev?? He is NOT a part of the capitalistic system! He is against alot of the things we hate! I strongly urge you to give him an open-minded second look. You say in your profile that you live in the state of confusion, so I guess you live in the USA? I live in the state of Pennsylvania, I just believe in the basic freedoms and rights of the public, we, AS ATHEISTS, are the cutting edge of intelligence and change in the world. I don't see a better alternative to Ron Paul. He is NOT as right wing as you think he is. If he WAS right wing, I would never even think of endorsing him.

[Tiberius]

lmao @ "Rev Jerry"

[RW_9]

Ron Paul is revolutionary in the same way Obama was. Meaning not at all. It really is that simple, no matter how frustrating the realization is. Every single time the choices are just a couple degrees off center and that's it. Do those couple of degrees make a difference? Sure, but nowhere near as much as people think they will.

[The Grand Nudger]

He's part of a small re-branding effort. Politicians are salesmen, they are casting the net further afield to pull in outliers. Let's say Ron Paul convinces Rev that he's a good guiy, and that he should vote for him. Fine, great, excellent, but the power of Revs vote is now in service of the right wing, because that's how Ron Paul votes (not that this is always a negative, but on a few key issues I know Revs position on this is untenable). The poster above me hit the nail on the head.

[Minimalist]