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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 1:46 am
(February 11, 2012 at 1:36 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: (February 11, 2012 at 1:27 am)Phil Wrote: (February 11, 2012 at 1:17 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: I'm not quite sure I get the point you're trying to make. I can't say I'm surprised at this.
WTF?
I'm not sure where THIS is coming from. Let me see if I can clear this up from my perspective.
I have no doubt you have a point you're trying to make. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive, but you appear to be implying that I'm too stupid to see it. I assure you, that is not the case. Perhaps if you'd spend a minute or so making it clear what you're on about rather than insulting my intelligence, we could have an intelligent discussion about this.
Then again, if you'd rather be an asshat about it, by all means, carry on.
No implication, your seem to have a guilty conscience. I said I'm not surprised you missed the point and I said nor implied nothing more.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 1:52 am
Would you mind attempting to clear up the confusion?
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 1:56 am
(February 11, 2012 at 1:52 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Would you mind attempting to clear up the confusion?
Which word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you trouble?
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 2:02 am
(February 11, 2012 at 1:56 am)Phil Wrote: (February 11, 2012 at 1:52 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Would you mind attempting to clear up the confusion?
Which word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you trouble?
The part where you compared this type of reactor to Newman's energy machine fraud. I don't see the parallel, and I'm surmising that you do. Why you're choosing to be so tight-lipped about it, I don't know.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 2:07 am
(February 11, 2012 at 2:02 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: The part where you compared this type of reactor to Newman's energy machine fraud. I don't see the parallel, and I'm surmising that you do. Why you're choosing to be so tight-lipped about it, I don't know.
I didn't compare it to anything. My exact words were "I think some people here need to read about pseudoscience scams such as Joseph Newman's machine."
I bolded the words you either missed or intentionally ignored. Either way, my question to you was what word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you confusion.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 2:12 am
(February 11, 2012 at 2:07 am)Phil Wrote: I didn't compare it to anything. My exact words were "I think some people here need to read about pseudoscience scams such as Joseph Newman's machine."
....and that statement's relevance to this thread is?
Quote:I bolded the words you either missed or intentionally ignored. Either way, my question to you was what word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you confusion.
We're over that.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 2:21 am
(February 11, 2012 at 2:12 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Quote:I bolded the words you either missed or intentionally ignored. Either way, my question to you was what word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you confusion.
We're over that.
You may be but I would like to know why you said that i implied that you were stupid. Until you answer that, we are not over it.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 2:28 am
(February 11, 2012 at 2:21 am)Phil Wrote: (February 11, 2012 at 2:12 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Quote:I bolded the words you either missed or intentionally ignored. Either way, my question to you was what word in the phrase "I'm not surprised" is causing you confusion.
We're over that.
You may be but I would like to know why you said that i implied that you were stupid. Until you answer that, we are not over it.
You explained it, and I took your word at face value. If I misinterpreted what you said and saw an implication where there none was intended, that's on me, not you. Good enough?
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 8:19 am
(February 11, 2012 at 12:59 am)Phil Wrote: (February 11, 2012 at 12:52 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: This isn't a perpetual motion scenario - fuel is added to the system.
Which powers itself. I think some people here need to read about pseudoscience scams such as Joseph Newman's machine.
It doesn't power itself though. This isn't a machine that just takes 20MW of electricity and turns it into 600MW of electricity. It uses thorium to produce that energy; thorium which will eventually be used up and will need replacing.
A perpetual motion machine is one that can (theoretically) run forever, ignoring wear and tear, without any input to the system. Since this one requires that once in a while we add thorium to the system, it is by definition not a perpetual motion machine.
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RE: Clean Green Energy
February 11, 2012 at 8:32 am
(February 11, 2012 at 8:19 am)Tiberius Wrote: It doesn't power itself though. This isn't a machine that just takes 20MW of electricity and turns it into 600MW of electricity. It uses thorium to produce that energy; thorium which will eventually be used up and will need replacing.
A perpetual motion machine is one that can (theoretically) run forever, ignoring wear and tear, without any input to the system. Since this one requires that once in a while we add thorium to the system, it is by definition not a perpetual motion machine.
Guess it was foolish of me to think that otherwise rational people would understand there are three types of perpetual motion/free energy machines and to understand that my use of the words SUCH AS were not making this a comparison to Newman's machine but to pseudoscientific claims of the same sort.
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