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i am almost baffled by the situation
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RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 6:12 am)Tempus Wrote: It personally disgusts me to think of couples 70 years old having sex, but that's no reason to be against old people having sex.

I see your point, and I whole-heartedly agree with it, however the example isn't exactly applicable, as your disposition towards incest is likely never to change, whereas I imagine that when you are the one who is 70, you will have an entirely new outlook on old age sex. Wink

(March 5, 2012 at 6:12 am)Tempus Wrote: Clearly we need a better way of determining what we ought to allow in society than personal disgust.

This is most true, however when the majority of a population deems something unacceptable that is what it becomes, unfair as that is...
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#12
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
Hello Arjun,

You are confusing 2 issues here:
Whether or not incest is genetically favorable, or whether or not incest is morally justified. In the case of the first, it is not, in the case of the second that depends on several factors, but most importantly the willingness of the participants.

If you want to reason out if 2 family members have sex is morally justified, ask your self 2 things:

1: Is it harmful to anyone else but these two family members?
2: Are these two family members doing this willingly and without coercion?

If the answer to 1 is no, and the answer to 2 is yes, then without letting your personal feelings getting in the way there is no valid reason to deny that there is no moral basis to condemn their activities. Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean it is morally wrong.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#13
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 6:12 am)Tempus Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 5:47 am)picto90 Wrote: Personally, it disgusts me, but should it?

It personally disgusts me to think of couples 70 years old having sex, but that's no reason to be against old people having sex.

(March 5, 2012 at 5:00 am)arjun Wrote: are you serious you can ever imagine to go to your mother for sex ?
you know what mother means to a child ?
i am stunned to read your comments.
My mother doesn't interest me sexually and I'm pretty sure the feeling is mutual. Why do you think it's wrong? Would you seek to prevent a relationship that's harming no one?
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(March 5, 2012 at 6:40 am)leo-rcc Wrote: Hello Arjun,

. Just because you don't like the idea doesn't mean it is morally wrong.

what is moral for you ?
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#14
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
An argument from emotion is no valid justification.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 6:43 am)leo-rcc Wrote: An argument from emotion is no valid justification.
this is your moral or your maxim, i could get it but i would ask you.
you dont entertain your emotions.you never called your loves one " my son" or " my dear "

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#16
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
Again a misrepresentation. What is morally right or wrong has no bearing on your emotional attachment over the issue. If you don't understand that than that is your problem.
Best regards,
Leo van Miert
Horsepower is how hard you hit the wall --Torque is how far you take the wall with you
Pastafarian
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#17
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 6:50 am)arjun Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 6:43 am)leo-rcc Wrote: An argument from emotion is no valid justification.
this is your moral or your maxim, i could get it but i would ask you.
you dont entertain your emotions.you never called your loves one " my son" or " my dear "

I think you misunderstand. When justifying what is moral, not taking into account your emotional standpoint does not mean that you don't have, or refuse to entertain emotions. It means you're making a decision from a non-subjective standpoint that would be applicable to everyone, despite certain individuals disposition toward an idea.
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#18
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 7:03 am)picto90 Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 6:50 am)arjun Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 6:43 am)leo-rcc Wrote: An argument from emotion is no valid justification.
this is your moral or your maxim, i could get it but i would ask you.
you dont entertain your emotions.you never called your loves one " my son" or " my dear "

I think you misunderstand. When justifying what is moral, not taking into account your emotional standpoint does not mean that you don't have emotions. It means you're making a decision from a non-subjective standpoint that would be applicable to everyone despite certain individuals disposition toward an idea.
but i want to know what is moral code for an atheist. so far it has been said that if an act which does not harm others should not be condemned on the on the account of some emotional tilt.
now i ask can i eat the meat of my dead ones ? no harm for other is involved here.
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RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
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Although I have my suspicions.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#20
RE: i am almost baffled by the situation
(March 5, 2012 at 7:19 am)Stimbo Wrote: [Image: tumblr_lctggyQ2811qbst30o1_500.jpg]

Although I have my suspicions.
my dear friend you were dismayed to miss the humor of kuki so i am here to replace him.you are a wise man.
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