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Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:05 pm
Whether God exists or not, life is almost too amazing to be true.
Cells working together to create consciousness. Energy not being able to be destroyed.
Our feelings of value, morality, love, appreciation, praise, and beauty. Our pride. Our intelligence, our development of language.
It's all just too amazing.
Talking about God being so extraordinarily out of probability doesn't seem to make sense to me, when life is like that as well.
Yes these things have natural theories behind them, but it's none the less bewildering and amazing.
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:11 pm
I am most likely the anomaly, but I do not view life as amazing. That is probably the primary reason I have no inclination or inner biological drive to bring forth another life into the world via my sperm.
I simply view life as it is, a means of satisfying one's appetites without harming others before the inevitable end.
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:12 pm
“This is rather as if you imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in — an interesting hole I find myself in — fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!' This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise. I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.”
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:13 pm
Can anyone say "argument from personal incredulity"?
I agree that life - indeed the Universe as a whole - is filled with amazing wonders. Even taken together in their entirety, they're all still infinitely more plausible than god/s (let alone "God") which has/have never been shown to have any effect on anything, ever.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:13 pm
Life formed and developed long before humans were around to invent any gods.... including yours.
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:14 pm
Probability has nothing to do with anything.
There are natural, rational explanations for those things, MK. Even if we don't fully understand how they came to be, we are coming closer to understanding how they work.
There is no question that these things are fantastic, awe inspiring, and we would like to look at them as being on some higher plane, but there is no evidence to suggest that that is the case.
Too amazing? Argument from Incredulity. Just because you don't understand or cannot grasp these things, doesn't mean they have supernatural origin. Also, the idea that things have more meaning when there aren't natural, biological origins for the feelings/experiences behind them is spurious. While some might think it's nicer to think that way, that fact alone lends no veracity to the claim.
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:19 pm
(This post was last modified: April 21, 2014 at 1:19 pm by Mystic.)
I can't make a comment - and it comes back - to whether it proves God or not. I wasn't talking about it proving God or even making his existence more likely. I was just talking about how life is amazing. Saying it's almost too good to be true, is just an expression not to be taken literally.
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:23 pm
I prescribe a healthy dose of the Holmesian Maxim laced with a dash of Occam's Razor.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:23 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 1:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can't make a comment - and it comes back - to whether it proves God or not. I wasn't talking about it proving God or even making his existence more likely. I was just talking about how life is amazing. Saying it's almost too good to be true, is just an expression not to be taken literally.
But the context of your post leaves an implied intent. You posted that life is almost too amazing to be an 'accident' on an atheist forum. How did you expect us to respond?
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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RE: Either way - It's almost too amazing to be true.
April 21, 2014 at 1:24 pm
(April 21, 2014 at 1:19 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I can't make a comment - and it comes back - to whether it proves God or not. I wasn't talking about it proving God or even making his existence more likely. I was just talking about how life is amazing. Saying it's almost too good to be true, is just an expression not to be taken literally.
This amazing and wonderful world we live in is incredible and speaks volumes on what a great Creator we have.
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