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Birthers are back
#1
Birthers are back
http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Quote:A crisis of Presidential succession? Yes. If the Obama birth certificate is not valid, and no actual valid document exist, then neither President nor Vice President exists. In which case the Speaker of the House of Representatives must act as President. It is therefore incumbent upon him to investigate. [3]

By trying to make Obama ineligable, they will remove him and his vice president, and supposedly everything he has done thereby making the Rpublican speaker of the house John Boehner president.

They kill 2 birds with one stone. Get rid of the darky and replace him with a "real american" (i.e. white Republican christian)
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#2
RE: Birthers are back
(March 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (i.e. white Republican christian)

Boener isn't white. He's orange.
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#3
RE: Birthers are back
When you can't win on the real issues, manufacture one. This is S.O.P. for the GOP.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#4
RE: Birthers are back
http://www.borowitzreport.com/

Quote:In Positive Economic Sign, Republicans Starting to Say Obama Wasn’t Born in US Again
S & P Birther Index Posts Big Gains

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report) – In what some experts are calling a strong indicator of improvement in the economy, Republicans in recent weeks have begun renewing their claims that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States.

While most economists agree that any significant improvement in the US economy is generally accompanied by an uptick in GOP questions about Mr. Obama’s place of birth, there is now an econometric tool for measuring the increase in those claims: the so-called S & P Birther Index.

The Birther Index, established in 2008, measures the occurrences of such words as “birth certificate,” “Kenya,” and “wasn’t born here” in Republican statements about the President, and has proven to be a surprisingly reliable tool for tracking improvements in the economy.

Harland Dorinson, the economist who devised the S & P Birther Index, said that as the economy recovers the index also shows a strong surge in statements questioning the President’s Christianity.

“As unemployment started going down, we saw an increase in references to Mr. Obama being a Muslim,” he said. “This is generally a very bullish sign for the economy.”

But Mr. Dorinson was quick to add that while the surge in references to Mr. Obama being “an Islamic socialist born in a mud-hut in Nairobi” is encouraging, the economy is not out of the woods yet.

“We won’t be fully in a recovery until the Republicans start calling him a Wiccan,” he said. “And if they start saying he’s a Satanist who practices human sacrifice and drinks the blood of children, then it’ll be time to pop open the champagne.”

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RE: Birthers are back
(March 5, 2012 at 4:40 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (i.e. white Republican christian)

Boener isn't white. He's orange.

He ain't orange, he's red.


Anyone else ever noticed that in the rest of the world, red is the colour of the left, not the extreme right.
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RE: Birthers are back
(March 5, 2012 at 5:44 pm)5thHorseman Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 4:40 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 4:36 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: (i.e. white Republican christian)

Boener isn't white. He's orange.

He ain't orange, he's red.


Anyone else ever noticed that in the rest of the world, red is the colour of the left, not the extreme right.

Neither the democrats or republicans deserve the red color.

Red is the blood of the workers, and belongs to leftist politics. The dems and Reps are not left wing.
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RE: Birthers are back
(March 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Neither the democrats or republicans deserve the red color.

Red is the blood of the workers, and belongs to leftist politics. The dems and Reps are not left wing.

Riiiight...so we're monopolising colours now are we?

Red is not the blood of "the workers", it's the colour of the blood of the workers, and also happens to be the colour of the blood of the "leaders", and "business owners", and just about every other human on the planet. It doesn't belong to any political party, just as it doesn't belong to any individual human.
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RE: Birthers are back
(March 5, 2012 at 6:23 pm)Tiberius Wrote:
(March 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: Neither the democrats or republicans deserve the red color.

Red is the blood of the workers, and belongs to leftist politics. The dems and Reps are not left wing.

Riiiight...so we're monopolising colours now are we?

Red is not the blood of "the workers", it's the colour of the blood of the workers, and also happens to be the colour of the blood of the "leaders", and "business owners", and just about every other human on the planet. It doesn't belong to any political party, just as it doesn't belong to any individual human.

Of course what you say is true along with flags, such as red white and blue.

But as far as solid red flags, it is meant to be blood of the workers. Solid red in and of itself has been held by socialism for over 150 years that it is the symbol of the blood of the workers.

Solid red is socialism
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RE: Birthers are back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag#History

...and it's been used for far longer for various other reasons. You can't just dictate what colour flags people use...and in any case, this wasn't about flags in the first place. This was about the Republican party colour being red, which you said they "didn't deserve" and that it "belonged in leftist politics", both remarks are absurd and untrue.
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#10
RE: Birthers are back
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red#Use_by_..._movements

Im not the one dictating its use. I am merely pointing out over 1000 years of political tradition. What I am talking about is common knowledge. I doubt even the people at conservapedia would disagree with me.

Quote:Use by political movements

As early as the 9th century, the Khurramites (successors to the Mazdak religion and proto-communists in the Middle Ages of the Middle East) used red as their symbol for revolution. Even before Europe's Revolutions of 1848, Socialist red was used as a color of European Revolutionaries, often in the form of a red flag. It was also used by Garibaldi's camicie rosse (redshirts) in the Italian Risorgimento, and taken up by Leftist and generally revolutionary groups, while the white of legitimist Bourbon partisans became associated with pre-World War I conservatives. The red color recalls the term "blood of the workers", representing the suffering of the proletariat. For instance, the Civil War in Russia and the Civil War in Finland were fought between the Red Army and various White Armies.





Members of the Communist Chinese military honor guard.
The identification of Communism with Socialist red (with the red flag being the primary color of the flag of the Soviet Union) and the red star being a Communist emblem led to such Cold War phrases as "the Red Menace" and "Red China" (as distinguished from Nationalist China, "Blue China" or "Free China"). China's de-facto anthem under Mao Zedong was "The East Is Red".[70] Mao Zedong was sometimes referred to as a "red sun".[71] The color was also associated with political vehicles such as the Red Guard in China and the Red Guards during the Russian Revolution of 1917 as well as with left-wing paramilitary terrorist groups such as the Red Army Faction in Germany and the Japanese Red Army. Red remains associated with parties on the left of the political spectrum.

Social-democratic political parties throughout the world, particularly in Europe, are most commonly symbolized by the color red. Red is also the color associated with the Popular Democratic Party of Puerto Rico.

In the United States, red is associated with the center-right Republican Party and blue with the Democrats – a reverse of the traditional European scheme. This convention is relatively recent: before the 2000 presidential election, media outlets assigned red and blue (the colors of the American flag) to both parties, sometimes alternating the allocation for each election. Fixed usage was established during the 39-day recount following the 2000 election, when the media began to discuss the contest in terms of "red states" versus "blue states".[72]

Well what do you know...even conservapedia got it right...well, some what:
http://www.conservapedia.com/Red

Quote:In politics, red has become the color associated with the Republican Party since its use by the TV networks on their electoral maps for states won by George W. Bush during the presidential election of 2000.

Red is also used to symbolize Communism and is prevalent in the flags of China and Soviet Russia. The slogan, "Better Red than dead," was popularized as a way of characterizing the appeasement of Communism by Bertrand Russell and his mostly British supporters.[4]

Red is politically associated with leftist and socialism.
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