Tibetan protester burns himself in India

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I think it's time that China returns to China proper, and leave the nations of Tibet, East Turkestan, Taiwan and Inner Mongolia alone.
My heart goes to the people of Tibet, may they find peace and freedom from the tyranny of the chinese.

[Autumnlicious]

China won't let Tibet leave-- they've invested too much in revitalizing the decaying Tibetan infrastructure to simply let it go for free.

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I think it's time that China returns to China proper, and leave the nations of Tibet, East Turkestan, Taiwan and Inner Mongolia alone.
My heart goes to the people of Tibet, may they find peace and freedom from the tyranny of the chinese.

Why, did your idol genghis khan stay in the mongolia proper? The chinese have squashed no where near as many ethnicities as your idol genghis Khan. Let them have their turn and play football with a few Turkish heads.

China won't let Tibet leave-- they've invested too much in revitalizing the decaying Tibetan infrastructure to simply let it go for free.

It is an survival imperative of any great power facing uncertain relationships with strong neighboring powes to expend their control to reach a strong natural defense line that would difficult to breach. For Germany with France it is the Rhein, for Britain it is the English channel, for the US it is the two oceans. For china with India it is the Himalayas. Having reached the Himalayas by controlling Tibet, they will no sooner leave Tibet and potentially hand the Himalayas to Tibetan plateau to India than they would cut their own throats.

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Why, did your idol genghis khan stay in the mongolia proper? They have squashed no where near as many ethnicities as your idol genghis Khan. Let them have their turn and play football with a few Turkish heads.

Chingiss Khan knew as much as I do, that the chinese are nothing more than pawns-sheep, easily herded, easily scared and destroyed.
Them, playing football with our heads? They are still mad that we have been giving them the shaft for so many years.

Besides, that's the problem. The chinese have been a rather dormant nation. Stationary. It is now that they want to assert control over the others, while Chingiss Khan and his grandsons, and the Manchus later on have asserted control over China with only a handful of soldiers compared to the population and resources that China had.
We had little. Scarce water. Scarce pasturelands. Scarce everything. They on the other hand, had plenty. What good did their plenty, their silk, do for them? Now they live as the slave wages of their so-called communist emperors.
Why must we live under the same emperor they choose to live under?

China won't let Tibet leave-- they've invested too much in revitalizing the decaying Tibetan infrastructure to simply let it go for free.

They have invested nothing in the Tibetan infastructure.
They have simply sent in as much Han as they can as to secure the loyalty of the place. That's what they do, although it certainly took them long enough to think of colonizing the areas around them.

[Shell B]

The Tibet situation is sad. I doubt it will change, though. I do feel a lot of resentment about it. How fucking hard is it to take a country full of non-violent monks? Fucking pitiful.

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The Tibet situation is sad. I doubt it will change, though. I do feel a lot of resentment about it. How fucking hard is it to take a country full of non-violent monks? Fucking pitiful.

The Tibetans were once fierce warriors of renown, on par with our kind.
But as time passed, they also settled down, and began to experience the neo-expansionist policies of the Chinese....China holds so many ancient and deep-rooted civilisations in it's grasp, many of whom were of great power once...

[Shell B]

That was a very, very long time ago, Kilic. By the time the Chinese invaded Tibet, they were a bunch of pacifists.

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That was a very, very long time ago, Kilic. By the time the Chinese invaded Tibet, they were a bunch of pacifists.

Certainly. But even if they weren't, there wasn't much that they could have done. My own people have been there, fighting them, Osman Batur(born Osman Islamoghlu), a hero of Eastern Turkestan, has battled much against both Chinese and Russian rule, by 1945, most of Eastern Turkestan was firmly in Turkish hands. However, the Chinese were persistent, he was caught at 1951 and executed by the Chinese in Urumchi, by having his arms and ears cut off after public humiliation.


The Dalai Lama was enthroned only a year before, not by the famed nationalistic Kuomintang, but by the Maoists.

[Anomalocaris]

Well, I guess the Chinese are making up for centuries of not conquering their neighbors by playing foot ball with Turkish head on an accelerated schedule these days.

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My wish is, that Tibet is reunited under an independent, secular Tibetan government.
The Dalai Lama could return as a religious, but not a political leader, although this is only my personal opinion....
But truly, anywhere but the sovereignity of the chinese is better for the Tibetan people.
A man is not kept alive but simply food and resources, which the Chinese government keeps to feed the han chinese population in Tibet, but also by national fervor, pride and independence.
I wish the best for the people of Tibet, they have my support, and the support of the oppressed people under Chinese rule.

Well, I guess the Chinese are making up for centuries of not conquering their neighbors by playing foot ball with Turkish head on an accelerated schedule these days.

Well, conquer they did, but they were sloppy expansionists. They only recently managed to move significant portions of their own numbers into territory outside China proper.