Posts: 763
Threads: 122
Joined: August 31, 2011
Reputation:
6
O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 5, 2012 at 8:36 pm
O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
The U. S. is on sale. Buy it while it’s hot.
O say can you see,
by the dawn's early light,
what so proudly we hailed
we now proudly renounce.
democracy
http://blog.ted.com/2008/09/17/the_real_differ/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-14SllPPLxY
Plato theorized that democracies, as they matured, evolved into oligarchies or plutocracies. We are witnessing exactly that.
When the new political election funding laws came into effect, the U. S. democratic system became an oligarchy or plutocracy. Billionaires are now buying political candidates and are in fact buying the leadership of the nation. They are now the power behind the throne and control the government and thus the people. Now, instead of working 9 to 5, Americans are working 24/7.
When did the U. S. devolve from the leading democracy of the West, to a tyranny up for sale?
Regards
DL
Posts: 438
Threads: 31
Joined: October 1, 2010
Reputation:
4
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 5, 2012 at 9:06 pm
I don't want to blame religion for everything...
but you can't say that having a spiritual organization claiming total power and teaching everyone that it's good to be a sheep helped anything.
Posts: 249
Threads: 13
Joined: April 4, 2012
Reputation:
3
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm
To be fair the US was never intended to be a democracy, but a Republic. (Democracy is rule of majority, which is tyranny against the minorities)
Posts: 123
Threads: 8
Joined: March 29, 2012
Reputation:
3
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 6, 2012 at 7:09 am
(April 5, 2012 at 8:36 pm)Greatest I am Wrote: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
The U. S. is on sale. Buy it while it’s hot.
The US is not for sale. It has already been sold (out). To China. China owns the US.
And it will cost you guys 14 trillion bucks to buy it back.
Wannabet in what century the US will be debt-free again...?
Posts: 2966
Threads: 124
Joined: May 12, 2011
Reputation:
30
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 6, 2012 at 7:23 am
Weird, I was thinking last night whilst watching TYT, where they said a new SuperPAC has been spawned just for bankers(as if they didn't have enough lobbyists), how Citizens United has turned America into an oligarchy.
Posts: 13051
Threads: 66
Joined: February 7, 2011
Reputation:
92
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 6, 2012 at 9:57 am
I fucking hate the Citizens United ruling.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Posts: 763
Threads: 122
Joined: August 31, 2011
Reputation:
6
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 9, 2012 at 10:44 am
(April 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm)libalchris Wrote: To be fair the US was never intended to be a democracy, but a Republic. (Democracy is rule of majority, which is tyranny against the minorities)
Is it better to have the tyranny of the minority?
No.
Democracy is a system that is supposed to be built on justice. Justice would always consider the minorities.
Regards
DL
Posts: 249
Threads: 13
Joined: April 4, 2012
Reputation:
3
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm
(April 9, 2012 at 10:44 am)Greatest I am Wrote: (April 5, 2012 at 9:19 pm)libalchris Wrote: To be fair the US was never intended to be a democracy, but a Republic. (Democracy is rule of majority, which is tyranny against the minorities)
Is it better to have the tyranny of the minority?
No.
Democracy is a system that is supposed to be built on justice. Justice would always consider the minorities.
Regards
DL
The definition of Democracy I'm referring to is where the majority rules. A republic is the rule of law, rather than rule of majority
In an absolute democracy, the majority has complete power. It's a dictatorship, where the majority is the dictator.
Rule of law is hardly tyranny of the minority. The Rule of law just ensures justice and freedom for everyone. That is, no matter how much the majority wants to impose a national religion, they cannot because the rule of law (the constitution) states that everyone has equal religious rights, and one religion may not be imposed on others. So no matter what the majority wants, the rule of law must be followed.
Posts: 763
Threads: 122
Joined: August 31, 2011
Reputation:
6
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 11, 2012 at 9:30 am
(April 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm)libalchris Wrote: [
The definition of Democracy I'm referring to is where the majority rules. A republic is the rule of law, rather than rule of majority
In an absolute democracy, the majority has complete power. It's a dictatorship, where the majority is the dictator.
Rule of law is hardly tyranny of the minority. The Rule of law just ensures justice and freedom for everyone. That is, no matter how much the majority wants to impose a national religion, they cannot because the rule of law (the constitution) states that everyone has equal religious rights, and one religion may not be imposed on others. So no matter what the majority wants, the rule of law must be followed.
Your head is in the sand.
Every U. S. president must be a Christian so religion is being forced down non-religious throats.
Or at least their view. Note Bush.
Regards
DL
Posts: 249
Threads: 13
Joined: April 4, 2012
Reputation:
3
RE: O say can you see, the U. S. Oligarchy?
April 11, 2012 at 1:30 pm
(April 11, 2012 at 9:30 am)Greatest I am Wrote: (April 9, 2012 at 1:13 pm)libalchris Wrote: [
The definition of Democracy I'm referring to is where the majority rules. A republic is the rule of law, rather than rule of majority
In an absolute democracy, the majority has complete power. It's a dictatorship, where the majority is the dictator.
Rule of law is hardly tyranny of the minority. The Rule of law just ensures justice and freedom for everyone. That is, no matter how much the majority wants to impose a national religion, they cannot because the rule of law (the constitution) states that everyone has equal religious rights, and one religion may not be imposed on others. So no matter what the majority wants, the rule of law must be followed.
Your head is in the sand.
Every U. S. president must be a Christian so religion is being forced down non-religious throats.
Or at least their view. Note Bush.
Regards
DL
Oh I'm not saying that the US is just fine. I'm just saying the US is/was actually a republic, not a democracy. I know the government is really screwed up. I was just differentiating between the democracy and republic forms of government.
|