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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 9:42 pm
Quote:Belief? Our position is based in fact,
I don't understand. What,position is that and what facts?
MY [atheist] position is most certainly not based on fact. It is based on a lack of belief due to the absence of credible evidence (proof) I think that is the antithesis of a fact based position.
Atheism is about a lack of belief,period,its implies NOTHING about knowledge,makes no claims.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 9:43 pm
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(April 10, 2012 at 9:32 pm)mediamogul Wrote: My big thing is that organized "minority" groups have a much more power within government and society.
We're not a group. As individuals, we have all the power to join groups and take on the government all we want.
(April 10, 2012 at 9:34 pm)Rhythm Wrote: All kidding aside, any terrible thing one might care to invoke as a reason for "uniting" are better handled by organizations that specialize in the area. Human rights advocates, educational lobbies, lawyers etc. That being said, Mogul does have a point.....perhaps we should hire some lawyers?
Does someone have an "Oh, Fudge" gif from A Christmas Story?
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 9:32 pm)Shell B Wrote: Bah, we all know damn well that not all theists bother atheists. Some do not try to place restrictions on us. There is absolutely no reason for atheists to unite in any way for the sake of atheism. It is not a fucking religion. Now, if someone wants to start atheistianity and unite under that name, have at it. I do hope, however, while they go about taking some imagined stand, they don't say things like "we atheists," because I'm not part of any atheist club and , if I was, I would make it clear that the club and atheism are two very different things.
Then shouldn't you be in favor of the "Bright" rebranding. The politically active, unified, anti-religion crusading atheists can refer to themselves as brights and you can continue referring to yourself as an atheist without any worry of assumed association.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 9:55 pm
Quote:Do all people who prefer chocolate icing over vanilla need unity?
Those chocolate loving motherfuckers should be shot on sight, Shel.
Commie bastards.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm
(April 10, 2012 at 9:51 pm)genkaus Wrote: Then shouldn't you be in favor of the "Bright" rebranding. The politically active, unified, anti-religion crusading atheists can refer to themselves as brights and you can continue referring to yourself as an atheist without any worry of assumed association.
Not at all. Then, it is not a "rebranding" of anything. It is a political group created by some silly atheists.
Why be so like the religions you so hate? Why be anti-religious? I'll never understand. Sure, be anti-hate, anti-rape, anti-religious war, but anti-religion?
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm
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(April 10, 2012 at 9:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: Not at all. Then, it is not a "rebranding" of anything. It is a political group created by some silly atheists.
Why be so like the religions you so hate? Why be anti-religious? I'll never understand. Sure, be anti-hate, anti-rape, anti-religious war, but anti-religion?
Maybe because a lot of that stuff comes from religion and anti-religion makes for a much more concise and focused approach.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm
You mentioned a few good reasons to be anti-religion there Shell, immediately preceding the question. Still, I don't think that I'll be joining any atheist league anytime soon.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 10:11 pm
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No. I gave very good reasons not to be anti-religious. Besides, what the hell does being like certain religions have to do with anti-religion? Might as well be fucking neo-religion.
Sneakiest Godwin ever, ftw.
(April 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm)genkaus Wrote: Maybe because a lot of that stuff comes from religion and anti-religion makes for a much more concise and focused approach.
That stuff would exist without religion. Religion is just an excuse. People will find another excuse.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 10:13 pm
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(April 10, 2012 at 10:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't think that I'll be joining any atheist league anytime soon.
Me neither; I'm with Groucho Marx.
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RE: Does Atheism Need to be Rebranded?
April 10, 2012 at 10:14 pm
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They would, have, and will again. Still, there's nothing wrong with being the guy to stand up and call bullshit about whatever excuse they offer Shell....
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