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Sweden Aims for "Gender Neutrality"
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RE: Sweden Aims for "Gender Neutrality"
(April 12, 2012 at 5:34 am)Tiberius Wrote: http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/d...ersy_.html
Quote:...for many Swedes, gender equality is not enough. Many are pushing for the Nordic nation to be not simply gender-equal but gender-neutral. The idea is that the government and society should tolerate no distinctions at all between the sexes. This means on the narrow level that society should show sensitivity to people who don't identify themselves as either male or female, including allowing any type of couple to marry. But that’s the least radical part of the project. What many gender-neutral activists are after is a society that entirely erases traditional gender roles and stereotypes at even the most mundane levels.
Whilst I think the idea of "gender neutrality" has good intentions, I think some of the things talked about in that article would just lead to unfairness. For instance, ignoring the physical differences between male and female athletes and having them compete against one another would in most cases lead to male-dominated sports victories.

What does everyone else think? Should we ignore the genetic / physical differences between males and females in order to promote a "more equal" society, and is such a society really more equal?

Well, everyone is equal before laws, but not everyone is equal before nature.
Hell, not everyone is equal within the social order either. Aiming for neutrality is a hard thing to do, especially for your type of languages where gender differences are most prevalent, as to aim for neutrality anywhere.
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RE: Sweden Aims for "Gender Neutrality"
(April 13, 2012 at 10:24 am)Faith No More Wrote: Because men need a place to pee without having to worry about the seat being down or getting a few drops on the rim of the toilet. Also, the urinals help us get in and out quickly.

You can piss into a toilet. Not to burst your bubble, but I do that and avoid urinals. Sure, I can piss into one, but it's never comfortable for me to keep my back or even sides in close proximity with strangers whose only common bond is having a quantity of piss. I've been attacked before and if I'm standing and pissing, there has to be a door or obstruction that makes noise behind me.

Also, if you're having trouble aiming your willing, it's your own damn fault. Lean closer in and aim less horizontally.

Functionally, urinals are degenerate piss only toilets with a wide rim for lazy aimers. And with regards to the piss-only, that's the intended use. Not that everyone obeys that intention...
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RE: Sweden Aims for "Gender Neutrality"
Moros Wrote:Functionally, urinals are degenerate piss only toilets with a wide rim for lazy aimers

Well, I was going to say that I don't have trouble aiming, I'm just lazy, but you seem to have foreseen that.
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RE: Sweden Aims for "Gender Neutrality"
Nothing to add bookmarking~~~~~~~~~

Still to read the article.
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