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Anyone want to take a stab at debunking this "miracle"?
#31
RE: Anyone want to take a stab at debunking this "miracle"?
First things first - what a lame-ass miracle.

But now to point out some painfully obvious points here:

#1 Did anyone actually listen to the video?! The rescuer NEVER says that he pulled her out of the window, let alone reach through a window. It's the News Reporter (who wasn't in the water) that makes that claim.

Quote:SCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
News Reporter: “Howard … had somehow reached through Charlene’s front window.”

Howard himself: “For me to actually feel her grasp my arm was a real shock … and then the second time that she grasped my arm, I knew right then that I could get her out.”

News Reporter: “And then, up she came.”

Christian news caster capitalizing on the rescuer's general relief and thankfulness that he got lucky enough to save a girls life??? The rescuer, Howard, never actually says a damn word about the windows ... for that matter he doesn't even say the word window in the entire video.


#2 Howard himself seems almost to laugh off this "miracle" at the end of the video. It seems like he's just going along with the story that the news reporter drummed up. All he says, "something happened." Maybe he was just a regular christian making the claim that god was there with him in spirit, helping him out - as most christians make regular claim to.

#3 Just cause someone says that the windows were up when the car was pulled out doesn't make it true. Can anyone verify this?? The video only shows the passenger side when it's being pulled out. That woman almost certainly came out of the drivers side if you watch the position of the truck before it went under and where she came out at. The drivers side is NOT shown in that video. That evidence, like all evidence the sheep have, is hearsay.

#4 Why isn't the dipshit girl in the car on the video telling us how god saved her?

#5 The rescuer himself could simply be lying because he's a fundy nutjob and wants to be god's little go-to guy in his local church.


Add all these together and I call BULL SHIT.
... just like all the rest of the "miracles"
When that truck comes levitating out of the water, floats across the street and gently rests on the green grass I'll concede that I might have seen a miracle.
Until then ... learn to swim dummy!
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#32
RE: Anyone want to take a stab at debunking this "miracle"?
(April 13, 2012 at 10:33 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: On another note, diving shipwrecks, that's some cool shit. I bet you've seen some neat stuff.

It's cool as shit, and dangerous as fuck if you don't know what you're doing.
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#33
RE: Anyone want to take a stab at debunking this "miracle"?
(April 14, 2012 at 12:05 am)Cinjin Wrote: First things first - what a lame-ass miracle.

But now to point out some painfully obvious points here:

#1 Did anyone actually listen to the video?! The rescuer NEVER says that he pulled her out of the window, let alone reach through a window. It's the News Reporter (who wasn't in the water) that makes that claim.

Quote:SCRIPT FROM VIDEO:
News Reporter: “Howard … had somehow reached through Charlene’s front window.”

Howard himself: “For me to actually feel her grasp my arm was a real shock … and then the second time that she grasped my arm, I knew right then that I could get her out.”

News Reporter: “And then, up she came.”

Christian news caster capitalizing on the rescuer's general relief and thankfulness that he got lucky enough to save a girls life??? The rescuer, Howard, never actually says a damn word about the windows ... for that matter he doesn't even say the word window in the entire video.


#2 Howard himself seems almost to laugh off this "miracle" at the end of the video. It seems like he's just going along with the story that the news reporter drummed up. All he says, "something happened." Maybe he was just a regular christian making the claim that god was there with him in spirit, helping him out - as most christians make regular claim to.

#3 Just cause someone says that the windows were up when the car was pulled out doesn't make it true. Can anyone verify this?? The video only shows the passenger side when it's being pulled out. That woman almost certainly came out of the drivers side if you watch the position of the truck before it went under and where she came out at. The drivers side is NOT shown in that video. That evidence, like all evidence the sheep have, is hearsay.

#4 Why isn't the dipshit girl in the car on the video telling us how god saved her?

#5 The rescuer himself could simply be lying because he's a fundy nutjob and wants to be god's little go-to guy in his local church.


Add all these together and I call BULL SHIT.
... just like all the rest of the "miracles"
When that truck comes levitating out of the water, floats across the street and gently rests on the green grass I'll concede that I might have seen a miracle.
Until then ... learn to swim dummy!
Nice breakdown of the situation. I think I'll copy and past this next time one of my fundy friends posts this video on my Facebook page.

(April 14, 2012 at 12:37 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(April 13, 2012 at 10:33 pm)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: On another note, diving shipwrecks, that's some cool shit. I bet you've seen some neat stuff.

It's cool as shit, and dangerous as fuck if you don't know what you're doing.

I've seen people do this on t.v. and imagine all the things that could go wrong. The things they show growing on the wreck and living in it are cool though. Oh, and rusticles are cool also.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise

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#34
RE: Anyone want to take a stab at debunking this "miracle"?
Wow someone opening a window classes as a "miracle". This is so lame.
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